Clearly untrue.

Of course everyone is a winner. And this is relevant?

Impressive debating skills.

/thread.

P.S. You would have made extra points with "loosing" instead of losing. But A+ for getting in "parody algorythms[sic]". GG sir.

wow

Coincidentally was talking about this with someone today - the main problems with small computing devices are the small screens but using this technology we could make something the size of a smartphone and if we need a larger screen we could pull out some of these devices and make it as large as we want.

IBM do a clumsy version of this on a laptop with a second pull out monitor but its very expensive and still very limited.

Let's keep our heads clear — no they don't. They have a strong interest in being perceived to be running fair games, because otherwise they would probably lose business and have legal troubles, but they have no interest at all in actually running fair games if there's no way they'll get caught, and plenty of incentive not to. This doesn't change the fact that institutionalized use of the technology mentioned in OP is probably unlikely because of the risk/reward ratio, but we should be clear that if casinos thought they could make money with it without getting caught, it's 100% certain that some, perhaps nearly all, would do it.

A tautology is always a tautology.

Most business are mainly honest, and don't indulge in elaborate conspiracies to defraud their customers. Conspiracies have a habit of unwinding and being very bad for business. Particularly somewhere like online poker, where one bit of bad publicity and poof! Why risk a billion dollar business?

Admittedly a small site run by and idiot might well try to do stuff you suggest. And probably has tried.

Do you really believe this?

Have you ever considered the possibility that you are wrong?

Sorry if you were offended.

Would you guys supply me a picture of this? The closest thing I found was this.................,I know nano tech is possible in 10 yrs put to have it on the size of a playing card seems whoa


http://www.physorg.com/news157721337.html

Interesting post Gabe, do you have any other examples of live technology 'rigging' that you've encountered in games you've been involved in already, rather than potential future instances?
If you have a blog I'd be interested to learn more.

Wait, they had this uber secret, high tech card technology to cheat you out of money and they let you record the hands you played in their casino for 3 years, when nearly all casinos have a no recording policy?

This is a great troll thread but you need to work harder to sell it man or it won't become epic. Too many slipups already.

P.S. the blog idea above sounds like a good one.

You've spent all this time in casinos and yet don't know they usually strictly ban recording in the gaming area? WTF?
Most casinos have a strict "no cameras" policy
Another example

You do not know this, and yet have the inside scoop on nanotechnology cards?
That's exactly my point. You would have been better off claiming you recorded it all with nanotechnology.

I have no idea if the OP is who he says he is, or if he is and he's bat**** crazy, but I played with the real Gabe Costner in Biloxi a few years ago and he did play big and win. For whatever little that's worth.

Maybe you should try the psychology forum next, OP.

What do you (he) think the actual cheating mechanism is? If it takes shining a laser onto the cards, it's pretty much impossible to do that in burn-and-turn real time. If the shuffle is rigged, the cut has to be as well. Like.. are you actually suggesting that the card order is rigged and known, or your hand is being spied on somehow, and that the cards in the deck are then being changed on the fly by some form of remote control to make you flop bad?

I take back this. My bad. I even think the technology itself doesn't exist. Not to talk about that the casinos wouldn't have the resources and will to fool around with lasers. People talk. And if there is some truth to what they talk, and that accordingly is investigated, the million dollar business will fry. Not like this thread, that soon will end and be forgotten.

By the way, a new thread: .twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/photochemically-switchable-playing-cards-dealt-rng-1037333/

I have read this whole thread.

1- Stars is 100% not rigged, Tilt maybe has a 5-10% weight on better players because I seem to run below expectation over easily a mill hands, but its more likely the universe is rigged, some people live their whole poker life with a weight on their EV. some its stars, others it tilt, some its both, some run hotter than the sun, some don't... just like some people were born into a roman slaveship whilst others were born as Richard Branson or some medieval king. You are very foolish for turning down that sponsor money. IF you do have evidence pls to be pming me so I can debunk it.

2. As for this card technology its very believable, some links in OP would have been a good idea. I can imagine people using these to cheat in home games,,,, however I don't believe casinos will ever become so technology orientated in a live setting, not in our lifetimes anyway, people like to watch that roulette ball, they like the universe having control over their fates... which also delludes people into paranoid thoughts over online legitamacy as they start blaming hte sites for their losses rather than the universe, afterall in live you can't blame the deck for being the way it was shuffled... people like to blame the dealer but they know it is wrong to do so...

also, the games are already rigged in their favour, they have no need other than pure greed to increase this, but this same greed also stops them doing something corrupt which can potentially break them

3. If you have seen these cards in use in a casino then inform the authorities or think of some kind of plan,

This is the most unbelievable thing of all, imo. 52 pieces of evidence in every deck.

How about radioactive Ace of clubs ? Your hearing aid is also a small sensitive counter. When the card is nearby it produces hits more often . You learn to recognize by the pace of hits who has it or if its at the deck not dealt yet . You can also change position in your seat leaning in different directions if needed to refine the estimate who has it or where it is. You may find it better to do it with just one card though. More than that will be a mess in terms of signals mixing and chaos produced.

The only interesting thing here is to ask what kind of edge do you have if you knew in a game where the Ac card is at any point in time. Any guess?


Ps: wouldnt do it of course even if possible unless the opponents were real sobs that needed to be taken down for a legitimate reason.

OP,

Where's the proof?

A pair of aces. Both hearts! Beat that.

Quantum Dot:

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Quantum_dot


As with most conspiracy theories the practical application of the conspiracy is so elaborate and technically unachievable that the implication of the same precludes it even being implemented, aside from being cost prohibitive; and aside from the fact that simpler (less costly and less risky) measures could be applied to achieve the same result(s), and for ends that are unreasonable, questionable, and dubious in the first place. Not that this will prohibit the more delusional and weak-minded from spewing this trash into random space.

There is a monster under my bed, whispering in my ear.


This thread will be merged with the Official Outerlimits Thread; it no longer deserves a stand-alone presence in SMP.

-Zeno

Why just have one card spotted, when you can have all cards spotted and changed to whatever you want in an instant?

Imagine you holding two aces of clubs, and an additional three comes on the board. That could be called a Super Flush. The button to enable this shouldn't be hit by accident, only when you are playing with real morans.

The discussion's been horribly derailed, but I've seen people calling for sunglasses to be banned based on the possibility that cards may be spotted with a marked substance.

This is silly, since there is nothing to stop a cheater wearing shaded contact lenses that allow them to see the marks. And if shades are banned from the table, they will never be caught. The possibility that anyone at any time might just pull out a pair of sunglasses is a very strong disincentive to that form of cheating.

Ha ha ha, I just thought about what would happen if somebody in the casino with the nanocards would fumble with the switches, and a player holding AA suddenly would have 72o. Unpleasant surprise after going all in.

The other night on netflix I watched a neogeo epsiode called "The Moment of Death". It was only mildly interesting for the most part but one portion caught my attention on NDE's. When the brain is shutting down people often report the similar experiences of euphoria, music and a light at the end of a tunnel. None of this is spectacular news as one neurologist explained the light and tunnel actually makes sense as the portion of the brain near the stem tends to be the last part active as the body will shut down other portions of the brain first and sense of light is centered there (I may be butchering that explanation).

There were a couple of stories that seemed genuine and the one that befuddled me was that of Al Sullivan a 55 year old truck driver undergoing triple bypass surgery. He was anesthetized and a cover was placed over his eyes yet while he was under he was able to describe parts of the surgery from a 3rd person point of view to his doctors' surprise afterward. This isn't conclusive evidence of this event happening but it does seem worth investigating. The only explanation that makes sense other than a true obe taking place is that the doctors were in on a hoax, however I don't think there is a lot of motive in this case.

Al was able to describe what he thought was the doctor bending his arms and moving about like a chicken as well as other things not in his line of sight even if his eyes weren't covered as well as a mini curtain above his neckline. The chicken movement was something Al couldn't have known about as the heart surgeon used his elbows to direct the other staff while keeping his hands sterile.

Is the skeptics point of view here simply that it was an elaborate hoax perpetrated by the doctors and the patient? Any other possibilities that allow Al to perceive these events without resorting to OBE/astral projection?

Also notable was the military reporting that test subjects for g force would also tend to have similar experiences to NDE recounts when blood going away from the brain caused them to pass out (oxygen deprivation).

Lets assume what you are suggesting is true. That while the body of this truck driver remained on the table, some other aspect of him (his "soul") floated above him and watched the procedure take place. There are two serious problems that arise with this:

1. What was seeing? His eyes and brain were on the table. The doctors made no reporting of some object floating in the air meaning at the very least the sould was invisible (i.e. not interacting with visible light). If this soul is invisible, how could it interact with the light in order to perceive what was around it?

2. Even if his "soul" could see, how would it remember what it saw? His brain was on the surgery table how could his brain "record" what the "soul" saw?