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Zombie apocalypse 20 18.18%
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Old 08-04-2020, 06:24 PM   #3451
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So the earth is flat after all?
First we debunk the "globe proofs" offered by LiveScience. Then we prove the earth is flat.
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Old 08-05-2020, 01:04 PM   #3452
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Re: Official Outer Limits/Debunking Thread

Maybe the Earth is shaped like a potato chip.
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Old 08-05-2020, 01:44 PM   #3453
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Re: Official Outer Limits/Debunking Thread

The earth is flat but the Earth isn't?
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Old 08-05-2020, 08:39 PM   #3454
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3) Watch an eclipse AKA the trainwreck of fallacious reasoning

Aristotle also bolstered his belief in a round Earth with the observation that during lunar eclipses, the Earth's shadow on the face of the sun is curved. Since this curved shape exists during all lunar eclipses, despite the fact that Earth is rotating, Aristotle correctly intuited from this curved shadow that the Earth is curvy all around — in other words, a sphere.

For that matter, solar eclipses also tend to bolster the idea that the planets, moons and stars are a bunch of roundish objects orbiting each other. If the Earth is a disk and the stars and planets a bunch of small, nearby objects hovering in a dome above the surface, as many flat-Earthers believe, the total solar eclipse that crossed North America in August 2017 becomes very difficult to explain.
Begging the question once – Earth shadow on the face of the sun

Begging the question twice – the fact that Earth is rotating

Begging the question thrice – “Aristotle correctly intuited” which makes this not a proof but a good guess which is confirmed with a proof to be found elsewhere

Stereotype fallacy and false dichotomy – “if the earth is a disk... etc”

Again, let's state this another way:

'The eclipse is caused by a celestial body known as the black sun obscuring the sun/moon.'

Your objection is valid, but the reason for your objection probably is not.
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Old 08-05-2020, 08:54 PM   #3455
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4) Go climb a tree
This is another one of those self-evident things: You can see farther if you go higher. If the Earth was flat, you'd be able to see the same distance no matter your elevation. Think about it: Your eye can detect a bright object, like the Andromeda galaxy, from 2.6 million light-years away. Seeing the lights of, say, Miami from New York City (a distance of a mere 1,094 miles or 1,760 kilometers) on a clear evening should be child's play.

But it's not. That's because the curvature of the Earth limits our sight to about 3.1 miles (5 kilometers) unless you climb up a tall tree, building or mountain and get yourself a perspective from higher up.
From a height of 6 feet above sea level, the horizon "should" indeed be at a distance of 3 miles.

And yet here we clearly see the horizon way beyond 10 miles from an observer height of 5 feet

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Old 08-05-2020, 09:06 PM   #3456
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5) Get a weather balloon

In January 2017, University of Leicester students strapped some cameras to a weather balloon and sent it skyward. The balloon rose 77,429 feet (23.6 kilometers) above the surface, well above the level needed to view the planet's curves. The instrument aboard the balloon sent back stunning footage that shows the curve of the horizon.

As long as your balloon has a payload of less than four pounds, there are hardly any restrictions on launching it. Just call the Federal Aviation Administration ahead of time to make sure you're not headed into restricted airspace.
And OMG they did it! Look at that earth curve



Amazing. Let's just take a look at the full video they recorded and cherry picked the above awesome earth curve shot from. Oh dear, what a fraudulent piece of trash this is.

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Old 08-05-2020, 09:15 PM   #3457
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This is all too much.
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Old 09-15-2020, 02:02 PM   #3458
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What is the flat earth reason for this?




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Old 09-15-2020, 05:06 PM   #3459
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What is the flat earth reason for this?




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Itís perspective.. from the outer boundaries aka Southern Hemisphere (itís not a sphere but itís the outside of a gigantic circle) you see the counter clock wise motion.

Stars prove a stationary and flat cosmogony. The stars/constellations have never changed after hundreds of years maybe even thousands in recorded history. I know in my 30 or so years Iíve noticed the star formations the same as when I was a kid.

If the earth is spinning 1000mph and moving around sun at 66,600 mph and the whole solar system is moving in a 3rd direction which is what official science says then it shouldnít be possible that stars havenít changed position. They should change by the second if itís moving in 3 directions... certainly change night after night and after months and years they should look nothing alike. But nope the stars are fixed in the firmament rotating like clockwork the total predictability.

TLDR: weíre moving in 3 directions the stars/constillations should have changed by now
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Old 09-15-2020, 05:08 PM   #3460
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This is all too much.
Thatís a normal response when your world view is challenged.. itís called cognitive dissonance once it sets in
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Old 09-17-2020, 01:59 PM   #3461
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The question of flat earth explanation for Northern/Southern hemisphere is obviously malformed.
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Old 09-17-2020, 02:02 PM   #3462
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Not even worth discussing really. When you think about it.
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