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09-13-2018 , 08:45 AM
This ought to allay some of your concerns, Masque:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions
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09-13-2018 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
This ought to allay some of your concerns, Masque:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions
Ok so let me clarify..

I nor does any flat earth associate with the flat earth society.

This is controlled opposition to make the flat earth movement look stupid and discredit it...

But why would anyone go to the length of coming up with disinformation websites just to prove flat earth is not legit?

This is part of the whole conspiracy.. YouTube and google searches are being altered so that flat earth society and other erroneous sources infiltrate the search. This is literally “1984” control of information type stuff.

Very scary... even scarier is that people don’t know any better and fall right into the traps.

Scary times we live in
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09-13-2018 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rjr777
This is controlled opposition to make the flat earth movement look stupid and discredit it...
How do we know that you're not part of the conspiracy to make the flat earth movement look stupid?
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09-13-2018 , 11:13 AM
Being openly on a planet rather disrupts any need to secretly conspire to describe it.
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09-13-2018 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
This ought to allay some of your concerns, Masque:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions
or exponentially tilt further.
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09-13-2018 , 07:00 PM
another "conspiracy" video from Lagrangian point lol





The whole damn experience of take off until finally curvature is evident




Stop the mfing insanity with flatness
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09-13-2018 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by masque de Z
Stop the mfing insanity with flatness
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09-13-2018 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by D1G1TALFOX
This "photo" is clearly a fake as it is well-established that it's turtles all the way down
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09-14-2018 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by quantph
This "photo" is clearly a fake as it is well-established that it's turtles all the way down
All I'm saying when You "Look into it" most turtles are not even at the bottom it's fish threw another world You can get threw . . .
Most people don't even know the other side of the world
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09-14-2018 , 05:34 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CERN_N..._to_Gran_Sasso

"A proton beam was taken from the SPS at 400 GeV and is made to collide with a graphite target within the CNGS tunnel. The resulting particles, most importantly kaons and pions among many other particles, were then focused by magnetic lensing and travelled 1 kilometre (0.62 mi) down the CNGS tunnel in a vacuum tube. These particles are naturally unstable, and their decay products include muons and muon neutrinos. All particles except neutrinos (protons, muons, pion, kaon...) stop near the end of the tunnel. The neutrinos continue their flight unaffected, as they rarely interact with matter. The number of muons was measured at this point, which gave an indication of the beam's profile and intensity. This beam then passed 732 kilometres (455 mi) through the crust of the Earth and it is expected that during flight some of the muon neutrinos convert into other neutrino types such as tau neutrinos.[1] Once the beam arrived at Gran Sasso, the OPERA and ICARUS experiments were used to detect the neutrinos. "

How do you enter earth at an angle and exit at an angle if it is flat 732 km later when the surface distance is bigger? The time of flight can be measured too.

http://operaweb.lngs.infn.it/spip.php?rubrique41





Also define what it would take you to be convinced it's a spheroid?


The proof that the sun is further away than the moon is the solar eclipse. The proof that the moon is as far away as it is comes from the lunar eclipse (the shadow of a curved earth is seen on the moon and a disk shadow would look different actually over time) and the obvious similar triangles with a coin one can do. (ie moon 60 earth radii away)

The proof the sun is very far away much farther than the moon is in the fact the moon when half moon during the day makes the angle of moon observer sun very close to 90 which only happens if the sun is very very far away (since in that triangle the other angle is almost 90 also when almost half moon). I promise you you will never see the half moon again in the sky like before because now it will be telling you something profound when you look back to see where the sun is at that moment in relationship to you.

That also (together with the solar eclipse being almost perfect ) proves the sun is huge many many times the radial size of earth (about 109).




A more thorough version from an ... unlikely source



Your flat earth would only require my own vigilance for the truth as a friend if it ever had a chance. Because i care more than them (flat earthers) to know i am right and they are not. It has mattered to me all my life to prove things first to myself.

Because the biggest battle in that sense is still ahead of me challenging me with a delivery miracle. Fail or succeed paradigm change is my business. But i do need to deserve it first. We all do. Put the work first before you confidently question the status quo. Be unhappy with it but care to know it first. Then at least you will be unhappy with only the things that do truly require revising.
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09-14-2018 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
I would think: HOW ** did this happen?
Look into it
You just gotta look into it . . . .
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09-14-2018 , 10:42 PM
Is a singular point in space smaller than a plank length? I understand how the uncertainty principle comes about through the angle of reflection on a measurement device, but are the grains of nature limited in a similar way? If there exists one so small that you need two of them to measure it, and since we have no technology that can measure the smaller than plank length scale, than it exists but cannot be detected?

Next question before I forget....

If such a field of stuff exists, since we cannot detect it, does its state remain unaffected by the observer effect?
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09-15-2018 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Pcallinallin
If there exists one so small that you need two of them to measure it...
It would break the known science (at least parts of it).

Plancks lenght is a carefully calculated quantity. If you were to find that there are even smaller increments of "space", something must be wrong with the formular. Be it factors we didnt know/couldnt comprehend or misscalculation of the existing factors (speed of light, plancks constant, gravitanional constant).

In before Masque gives a proper answer. :P
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09-15-2018 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Pcallinallin
Is a singular point in space smaller than a plank length? I understand how the uncertainty principle comes about through the angle of reflection on a measurement device, but are the grains of nature limited in a similar way? If there exists one so small that you need two of them to measure it, and since we have no technology that can measure the smaller than plank length scale, than it exists but cannot be detected?

Next question before I forget....

If such a field of stuff exists, since we cannot detect it, does its state remain unaffected by the observer effect?
As I wake up sober again, I recall something about energy density and black holes. Since planks constant is a unit of joules seconds if an energy density exists that is greater than planks constant in space in time, it forms a black hole.

The implications on my previous questions is that if the "super small" stuff I proposed would be undetectable if it exists and its energy density is less than the plank constant. But if it were to exist and had an energy higher than the plank constant than it would be detectable as a black hole.
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09-15-2018 , 03:55 PM
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It would break the known science (at least parts of it).

Plancks lenght is a carefully calculated quantity. If you were to find that there are even smaller increments of "space", something must be wrong with the formular. Be it factors we didnt know/couldnt comprehend or misscalculation of the existing factors (speed of light, plancks constant, gravitanional constant).

In before Masque gives a proper answer. :P
I will be spamming F5 all day. I can't wait too.
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09-19-2018 , 08:28 PM

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09-23-2018 , 01:14 PM
A useful article from a very good magazine; The Skeptical Inquirer

flat-earth_anxieties_reflect_misplaced_priorities
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09-25-2018 , 09:51 AM
“You should have seen the look on their faces when I retorted ‘No, autism causes vaccines.’”
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09-27-2018 , 01:18 AM
Earth is flat.

There have been at least two threads on 2p2 about this topic and they were both shut down.

The globe gobblers can't prove anything and they can't let the argument go. It's fascinating to see how much they will respond.

Spreading FE truth works way better IRL than on 2p2.
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09-27-2018 , 09:53 AM
If some guy handing out flyers on the boardwalk says science is wrong I'm going to listen.
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09-28-2018 , 12:07 AM
It's so simple with general interactions. For example, at a gas station: "Hey this is a nice day today, not too hot" "yeah as long as the clouds are blocking the sun... strange how we feel such a shift in temperature from a cloud when the sun is supposed to be a hundred million miles away" "a hundred million miles!? I don't think so, mate. That will be $40, have an excellent day"

Common sense makes good conversation with anyone. No one is playing a character face to face like we see people do on forums. Out in the open we're all trying to get along. Curving water will never come up in your day to day discussions with the folks you see. Personal stories of outer space have NEVER OCCURRED among civilians IN HISTORY.

Earth.

Is.

Flat.

Deal with it.
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09-28-2018 , 03:48 AM
I am not gonna deal with it!


You deal with it!




Feel free to check the clouds on a particular week on any country in 2015-2016 shown here and tell me they faked it all so perfectly including the solar eclipse.


What is the ratio of the sides of this ship as time passes?




Space station?




Experiment?




Even stupid megalomania driven Tesla cars



once upon a time there were not so many idiots around the globe and some people really worked to make it happen.

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09-28-2018 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets
It's so simple with general interactions. For example, at a gas station: "Hey this is a nice day today, not too hot" "yeah as long as the clouds are blocking the sun... strange how we feel such a shift in temperature from a cloud when the sun is supposed to be a hundred million miles away" "a hundred million miles!? I don't think so, mate. That will be $40, have an excellent day"

Common sense makes good conversation with anyone. No one is playing a character face to face like we see people do on forums. Out in the open we're all trying to get along. Curving water will never come up in your day to day discussions with the folks you see. Personal stories of outer space have NEVER OCCURRED among civilians IN HISTORY.

Earth.

Is.

Flat.

Deal with it.
This is good advice.. I will head it
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09-28-2018 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets
Earth is flat.

There have been at least two threads on 2p2 about this topic and they were both shut down.

The globe gobblers can't prove anything and they can't let the argument go. It's fascinating to see how much they will respond.

Spreading FE truth works way better IRL than on 2p2.
2p2 showing their thought police colors
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