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Old 04-12-2017, 07:13 PM   #26
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Re: Ethics Part 1: Why I am Not a Cannibal

https://youtu.be/d4O1A-mmBWw

The 1980s take on the matter.
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Old 04-12-2017, 07:20 PM   #27
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you do not need all those fancy recipes... ALIVE tells the story of what real men, rugby players, do when they crash in the mountains and get hungry...at first it was filet of buttocks, dried in the sun..at the end they were just chomping on the bones and slurping down huge chunks..it is an acquired taste and a rugby tour that i will never forget....

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Old 04-13-2017, 12:34 AM   #28
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No need to wipe out the others although losing 50% of our number right now would be a great boost for a lot of things, especially if the most excessively dogmatic religious people and the 90% of the super top rich hardcore capitalists, the worthless celebrities and politicians were that 50% but its ok let all live, we will fix it.

The planet will live precisely because we humans exist. Not only it will live but 1 trillion more planets will do too eventually!

Dream of the day an entire planet will be a zoo in a solar system not very far away teaming with all kinds of non human animals doing random walks of evolution for fun.

It is precisely because we destroyed so much in this planet on the way to wisdom that we will rebuild it and "explode" another thousand of them with life in the next 1000 years. You can count on it.


The planet is dead without humans. Eventually earth is wiped out sooner or later by something and we will prevent it now. Yes we will!
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Old 04-13-2017, 01:18 AM   #29
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Re: Ethics Part 1: Why I am Not a Cannibal

W/E you do don't look up 'Muki's Kitchen.' I warned you.
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Old 04-13-2017, 06:53 PM   #30
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W/E you do don't look up 'Muki's Kitchen.' I warned you.
how did you find that?
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:14 PM   #31
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how did you find that?
I was looking for cannibal recipes, ldo. Actually, it found me. One day I googled 'weird ****' and got a link. I'd wonder where they got models for that stuff if it weren't for the gazillion women willing to do any kind of porn.

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Old 04-13-2017, 10:36 PM   #32
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Looked it up, read the site description and no way man. And I've seen some weird ****ing porn. Can't click the link.
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Old 04-14-2017, 04:36 AM   #33
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I was looking for cannibal recipes, ldo
You should expect a visit from the FBI.

Although it won't happen till after you've eaten half your neighbourhood.
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:59 PM   #34
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My neighbors are too old and full of gristle to eat.
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Old 04-14-2017, 08:24 PM   #35
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It's your own fault if your body can be prepared healthy and delicious.
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:11 PM   #36
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Soylent Green FTW
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:44 AM   #37
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Contemporary cinema

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Old 04-16-2017, 09:44 AM   #38
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There appears to be a paucity of good recipes/cooking instructions.

I did find this:

how-to-eat-human


The above is just the teaser for your ethical entanglement discussion. Ready, set,..........Lets get cooking!
When are you going to answer the question you posed in the title of the thread?
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Old 04-16-2017, 10:27 AM   #39
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Points so you can go hang yourself:

Ethics are equally justifiable and malleable according to time and/or location.
Ethics are not rationally explored in depth by any majority of people and are broadly accepted without question based on the social group, the cultural indoctrination, and the rituals, ceremonies, religion, and accepted norms of all the diverse groups humans divide themselves into. Nothing all that revelatory about the above.

Exploring this fact is verboten. It calls into question all your accepted assumptions, preconceived notions, set standards of ethics and makes you uncomfortable in a host of other ways. Example: The Practice of Cannibalism - Which can broadly be divided between cannibalism that is classified as ritualistic (socially forced for a variety of reasons) and that which is forced upon some group of individuals by circumstances alone, for survival (e.g. Donner Party).

In the later example should you eat the men first, feeding them to the women and children? Do you vote on it? Or is it done by fiat by whomever is the leader?


To beat a dead horse with another grand example:

1.A fetus is just a lump of cells
2.To avoid wasting useable food material aborted fetuses are hung up in a local sandwich shop
3.Your choice is between eating a fetus sandwich or a chicken sandwich.
4.Make a choice…….(side choice is whether to eat the fetus raw, cooked, or just ground up like liverwurst).


I choose the fetus sandwich* (always so tender and juice), hold the mayo and make sure I get the pickle this time, please. Cashier says, “Of course – that will be 11.98 plus tax. Do you want the Brain Pâté also? And do you wish to round up and make a donation to Planned Parenthood? “ “No to both”, I reply – “the sandwich is plenty, thank you.” “And it is against my religion to give to charities”.

*A fetus is not a human being thus technically I will not be a cannibal by eating a fetus sandwich. True or false? Also instead of use as a food material all aborted fetus waste could be ground up to use as fertilizer, thus relieving the populace of the ethic problem of whether to eat the fetus sandwich or the chicken sandwich. And reducing the amount of chemical fertilizers used to grow eggplants, corn, peas, garlic and assorted herbs, etc..


Is eating a fetus sandwich carbon neutral?

Oh, And how much is that fetus in the window? would be a great song title.
A life well lived; good action; ethics.

A subject most general and subjective in nature.

Your ethics (or understanding of)...
is one of valuing the majority, yet classifying oneself within a special minority.

Cannibalism is not wrong if the majority thinks it so.
The sun revolves around earth if the majority thinks it so.

One of these statements is less general in nature (more
specified/scientific - Aristotle).

Do general statements prevent the communication of truth? Do poetry or painting obscure the communication of truth?

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Old 04-17-2017, 01:31 AM   #40
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My neighbors are too old and full of gristle to eat.
More flavor though. You just have to cook them low and slow to turn the connective tissue into tasty gelatin.

Dry brining also. It isn't really brining, but it does really help (more so than actual brining) with tough cuts of meat.
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Old 04-17-2017, 04:22 AM   #41
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You sound like you know what you're talking about which is...........disturbing.
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Old 04-22-2017, 12:31 PM   #42
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Re: Ethics Part 1: Why I am Not a Cannibal

Honestly I'm amazed that no-one has yet offered a human burger using cloned meat technology. Crowdfunding anyone?

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Old 04-22-2017, 04:30 PM   #43
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http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/...nibalism-study
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Old 04-22-2017, 06:49 PM   #44
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Hooray for calorie rich fat people.
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Old 04-22-2017, 08:10 PM   #45
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The wee ones are chock full o' vitamins and minerals, I expect.
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Old 04-24-2017, 12:33 PM   #46
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Dry brining also. It isn't really brining, but it does really help (more so than actual brining) with tough cuts of meat.
Important question: do you remove the head before brining? Follow up; what about dry aging (like done with beef steaks)? I would assume for dry aging the head is removed as extraneous, as in live so in death - the majority don't use their head.
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Old 04-25-2017, 01:48 AM   #47
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Important question: do you remove the head before brining?
For a fully grown adult, you need to butcher the carcass and preferably remove any tough fascia before salting. The salting process is highly dependent on the thickness of the flesh, so it is best to treat the torso, smaller and larger limbs separately.

Perhaps head removal would not be necessary for a yearling as they are relatively compact and some twine can be used to truss the carcass for even action of the salting, but the young don't really benefit from such treatment as they are already quite tender and juicy. Skipping the salting process and leaving the noggin attached (and obviously not trussed to the rest of the body during roasting would probably lead to excellently crispy skin. A nice honey and soy glaze would help both crisp and flavor the skin.

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Follow up; what about dry aging (like done with beef steaks)? I would assume for dry aging the head is removed as extraneous, as in live so in death - the majority don't use their head.
I don't believe that you would want to dry age any organ meats. The higher fat and moisture content would lead to spoilage before any benefit would be obtained.

Not entirely certain about this, but I believe that I learned somewhere that there would be far too much extrinsic path apoptosis in the organ meats. This would lead quite quickly to a sort of nasty puddly mush and it is important to remember that texture is extremely important. You can get around apoptosis by keeping the temperature just high enough during drying to prevent the enzymes from doing their thing, but that would lead to more of an organ meat jerky than a dry-aged product.
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