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Originally Posted by madnak
I was watching an American television show recently in which a bad guy tried to stop the heroes, I think by using some kind of magic spell or mind control device, and was defeated by the "power of free will."
That is like saying that the Brits are subjected to vast amounts of alien protector propaganda due to Dr. Who.*
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I'm sure I could watch most children's shows and find the same thing - nonsensical or magical references to "free will."
I am sure you couldn't watch "most" and find "the same thing. You could, watching tv see people struggling over decisions, but this is not the same as free will. Finding something on kid's tv that approximates (in your head) free will is not the same thing as finding something that is indoctrinating free will. An example is not the same as "most."
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I experienced the same thing in school, have even experienced it in counseling sessions.
TMI. I really didn't need to know that you have had counseling or anything about your experience with it. Some things are better left unsaid.
FYI, I trained and worked as a clinical psychologist for years. Either you had a crappy counselor, or you misunderstood him/her, or s/he thought that your world view was hurting you and was trying (unsuccessfully) to alter it.
Personal experience has NOTHING to do with propaganda.
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There is a powerful indoctrination going on here in the US, for anyone who notices. I can collect specific examples of how the American media references free will in a libertarian (or out-and-out magical) way if you like, but it will take some time.
There is a
powerful indoctrination going on here in the US, for anyone who notices. I can collect specific examples of how the American media references <insert something or other here> in a <something or other way> (or out-and-out magical) way if you like, but it will take some time.
Pick any set of related ideas parallel (in their relationship) to yours, and I can do the same. The only caveat is that they must not be obscure.
*Best show ever!