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Originally Posted by durkadurka33
You require that [free will] is sufficient for [intentionality].
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If determinism is true, my consciousness is just as much consciousness as a rock rolling down a hill, or a tree choosing the direction in which to grow its roots.
* If no free will, then no consciousness
-> If consciousness, then free will
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Some conceptions of consciousness require intentionality.
* If intentionality, then consciousness.
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Intentionality is required for free will.
* If free will, then intentionality.
I seem to have drawn myself a nice consistent picture.
If consciousness, then free will.
If free will, then intentionality.
If intentionality, then consciousness.
I have stated that none of the statements (consciousness, free will, intentionality) are empirically provable. So I know that there's no internal contradiction in what I've said so far.
Maybe somewhere I said something that caused confusion?
Edit: And the only claim to truth value to any of these is that I've asserted that my experience of free willed decisions is sufficient for me to take the position that I have free will.
Edit #2: And if I lose free will, I don't know how to make sense of either of the other two concepts without redefining them.
Edit #3: Similarly, if I lose consciousness, I don't know what free will looks like nor intentionality.
Edit #4: What were we talking about? Maybe I'm the one who has gotten confused.
Last edited by Aaron W.; 06-05-2010 at 01:39 PM.