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10-19-2017 , 05:37 AM
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10-19-2017 , 05:48 AM
-ecriture d'adulte
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/47...oblem-1652550/

Is there something unexplained/mysterious about the arrow of time?

The AoT is, roughly, the observational fact that there is a massive asymmetry between past states and future states despite the fact that the microscopic laws governing this evolution are completely time symmetric. Unlike other issues in modern physics, one of the main points of contention seems to be whether this is a problem at all! From my passive information gathering, it seems that cosmologists and philosophers are more likely to think there is a real problem, while particle/string theorists don’t see one. I largely sympathize with the latter, fwiw.

Just for background, the obvious one word answer to why the future is different from the past, why do eggs break but not unbreak etc is entropy. There are something like ~10^23 more ways for an egg to be broken than for it to be unbroken. So an unbroken egg can change to a broken one, while the opposite requires incredible fine tunings/correlations; so much so that the universe is not old enough for an event that rare to have occurred yet.

This was largely understood in the 1800s. There was also an obvious objection (also raised in the 1800s) that this doesn’t really explain anything. Namely, the argument works exactly the same backwards in time (let t---->-t). Given we see some low entropy state now (an unbroken egg) it should have been broken in the past simply because there are again ~10^23 more ways for an egg to be broken than not.

The response is usually to just put in time asymmetry by hand, as a boundary condition. The past is given a “fixed” lower entropy condition while the future is “unfixed” and therefore simply evolves into more likely states. Cosmologists and philosophers claim that this, again, doesn’t really solve anything because we’re left with the problem of why the big bang itself started, or very soon after found itself in an incredibly low entropy state.

Hawking, at one point, honestly held the belief that if the universe was not expanding but contracting, eggs would be observed to unbreak rather than break!!!!! He’s since been convinced this is wrong. OP is long enough so I’ll stop here, ignoring most of the cosmological issues, but I'll add that I'm still not sure there is a problem to begin with. Any thoughts?
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10-19-2017 , 09:20 AM
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10-19-2017 , 06:52 PM
Machiavelli looks like someone that got their ass beat by jocks on the regular.
Only fitting that power games appeal to him.
Quite stupidly, his values were misdirected.
What he really enjoyed; what really gave his life meaning was artistic expression and creation. Not the one thing he'd have you believe is valuable - power.
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10-19-2017 , 07:59 PM
Takes only one Einstein or one Feynman or one Archimedes to demolish an endless army of Machiavellis. AI will be the next step in this demolishing of evil and the road to permanent victory of what is a lot more ethical and liberating.

If you have less rules to abide to, because you do not care, you can go to places others will never go but they will not be beautiful places that change the world in the end for the better only through the lesson of failure they offer.
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10-23-2017 , 11:26 PM
Humans consider themselves unique so they've rooted there whole theory of existence on their uniqueness. One is their unit of measure, but it's not. All social systems we've put into place are a mere sketch. One plus one equals two. That's all we've learned, but one plus one has never equaled two. There are, in fact, no numbers and no letters. We've codified our existence to bring it down to human size to make it comprehensible. We've created a scale so that we can forget its unfathomable scale. -Lucy


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10-23-2017 , 11:28 PM
Digital Evolution Another Step Closer
Talking to God...


I met god the other day.

I know what you're thinking. How the hell did you know it was god?

Well, I'll explain as we go along, but basically he convinced me by having all, and I do mean ALL, the answers. Every question I flung at him he batted back with a plausible and satisfactory answer. In the end, it was easier to accept that he was god than otherwise.

Which is odd, because I'm still an atheist and we even agree on that!

http://www.fullmoon.nu/articles/art.php?id=tal
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10-24-2017 , 01:16 AM
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Machiavelli looks like someone that got their ass beat by jocks on the regular.
Only fitting that power games appeal to him.
Quite stupidly, his values were misdirected.
What he really enjoyed; what really gave his life meaning was artistic expression and creation. Not the one thing he'd have you believe is valuable - power.


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10-27-2017 , 08:14 AM
"Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids"
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10-28-2017 , 07:12 AM
lol Spank Nh . . .



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10-29-2017 , 07:01 PM
People these days don't even know how to communicate someone else's ideas, let alone generate their own. They only know how to copy paste memes and quotes, like a mindless robot creating duplicates out of rubbish.

(Some) kids these days.
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11-04-2017 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by VeeDDzz`
Machiavelli looks like someone that got their ass beat by jocks on the regular.
Only fitting that power games appeal to him.
Quite stupidly, his values were misdirected.
What he really enjoyed; what really gave his life meaning was artistic expression and creation. Not the one thing he'd have you believe is valuable - power.
wikipedia.Machiavelli

From wiki link given above:


After the Medici victory, the Florentine city-state and the republic were dissolved, and Machiavelli was deprived of office in 1512. In 1513 the Medici accused him of conspiracy against them and had him imprisoned. Despite having been subjected to torture ("with the rope" in which the prisoner is hanged from his bound wrists, from the back, forcing the arms to bear the body's weight and dislocating the shoulders), he denied involvement and was released after three weeks.

Machiavelli then retired to his estate at Sant'Andrea in Percussina, near San Casciano in Val di Pesa, and devoted himself to studying and writing of the political treatises that earned his place in the intellectual development of political philosophy and political conduct.

Despairing of the opportunity to remain directly involved in political matters, after a time, he began to participate in intellectual groups in Florence and wrote several plays that (unlike his works on political theory) were both popular and widely known in his lifetime. Still, politics remained his main passion and, to satisfy this interest, he maintained a well-known correspondence with more politically connected friends, attempting to become involved once again in political life.

In a letter to Francesco Vettori, he described his exile:


When evening comes, I go back home, and go to my study. On the threshold, I take off my work clothes, covered in mud and filth, and I put on the clothes an ambassador would wear. Decently dressed, I enter the ancient courts of rulers who have long since died. There, I am warmly welcomed, and I feed on the only food I find nourishing and was born to savour. I am not ashamed to talk to them and ask them to explain their actions and they, out of kindness, answer me. Four hours go by without my feeling any anxiety. I forget every worry. I am no longer afraid of poverty or frightened of death. I live entirely through them.

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11-04-2017 , 07:30 AM
You're using a lot of big words and making me feel stupid for thinking it's just that an egg is meant to be broken. Has any egg ever been created that we know of in the history of time that has not cracked? Eggs break bc that is their purpose within the existence of life. Life is on and off....alive and dead.

When the egg was alive the chicken wasn't yet

When the chicken was alive the egg died


See, I know words, I have the best words. Come at me bro
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11-12-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
wikipedia.Machiavelli

From wiki link given above:


After the Medici victory, the Florentine city-state and the republic were dissolved, and Machiavelli was deprived of office in 1512. In 1513 the Medici accused him of conspiracy against them and had him imprisoned. Despite having been subjected to torture ("with the rope" in which the prisoner is hanged from his bound wrists, from the back, forcing the arms to bear the body's weight and dislocating the shoulders), he denied involvement and was released after three weeks.

Machiavelli then retired to his estate at Sant'Andrea in Percussina, near San Casciano in Val di Pesa, and devoted himself to studying and writing of the political treatises that earned his place in the intellectual development of political philosophy and political conduct.

Despairing of the opportunity to remain directly involved in political matters, after a time, he began to participate in intellectual groups in Florence and wrote several plays that (unlike his works on political theory) were both popular and widely known in his lifetime. Still, politics remained his main passion and, to satisfy this interest, he maintained a well-known correspondence with more politically connected friends, attempting to become involved once again in political life.

In a letter to Francesco Vettori, he described his exile:


When evening comes, I go back home, and go to my study. On the threshold, I take off my work clothes, covered in mud and filth, and I put on the clothes an ambassador would wear. Decently dressed, I enter the ancient courts of rulers who have long since died. There, I am warmly welcomed, and I feed on the only food I find nourishing and was born to savour. I am not ashamed to talk to them and ask them to explain their actions and they, out of kindness, answer me. Four hours go by without my feeling any anxiety. I forget every worry. I am no longer afraid of poverty or frightened of death. I live entirely through them.

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Interesting plot twist. He also enjoyed power.
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11-12-2017 , 08:34 PM
We all enjoy power.
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11-13-2017 , 05:02 AM
Connect with the universe and its laws and the complexity master plan that is emerging and then you will be on the power trip of your life lol. You will live 80-100 or 120 years or more if you get lucky to get to the breakthrough but in reality you would have lived for billions of years in the past and the deep future. That is true power. To know the game and where it is going or kind of or how great it can become even and surprising even when you are gone.

If you get to play a rather important role in it (the way humans perceive importance) even greater but in reality we all play a great role as it is.
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11-13-2017 , 05:36 AM
Is the game more interesting to you if it is 'going somewhere'?/moving toward a "better" state of affairs?

Think you'd enjoy it less if it wasn't?
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11-13-2017 , 05:38 AM
It's always going somewhere.
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