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Originally Posted by mackeleven
What is your scientific society philosophy? I've seen you mention it a few times on here.
I am not ignoring that post but i twill take time to address it properly (plus its not proper to hijack the thread with something not directly related to it although possibly we might share such world with advanced aliens of AI eventually lol), maybe a thread to finally join all other posts on the matter i have written.
In the meantime you can maybe search my past posts using that term (scientific society) and see what you get going back 3-4 years even. There must be dozens of references with various examples of what it could be like. Instead of describing it in one place i selected to talk about its properties on many occasions.
Very briefly maybe i can say a few things;
It is an initially perceived as Utopian world (may start as a small experiment or subset of the planet) that uses science to become reality. It operates like science constantly self reflecting and improving its structure. Its decisions on core issues are done with scientific reasoning and advanced technology is used and developed constantly to improve it.
It doesnt decide at start if its capitalism or communism or socialism. It wants to be a free fair system that sees value and potential in all people and ideas and decides based on merit. It is a scientific society based on competition and cooperation (but cooperation for sure always) in the sense that it uses scientific reasoning to define what it is really and why. To do so first it asks the people of the world to agree on a bare minimum of what they would want to have in the world to be happy and then goes out and produces that minimum (and to address also global problems common to all) and builds everything else above that. In exchange people work a minimum per day (aim of the system is to make that a declining function of time) to secure that system is viable and they are free to do other things too on top of that or they find other ways to pay for that service without working. Its a mixed services and money economy. It is not a strict money culture.
If they do not work at all they still enjoy a very spartan level 1 minimum that is not terrible at all (nobody is truly poor there in the most undesirable sense of the term realized worldwide so often today). But level 2+ is so much more beautiful and meaningful that it makes it impossible to ignore and remain lazy doing nothing if you are already well educated to know enough (available to all at level 1). Work exists always for all that want it as the system is permanently involved in endless projects to improve itself, solve world problems, protect environment, sensibly grow sustainably and even colonize the solar system and reach the stars.
It welcomes free enterprise also on top of the jobs the system creates to sustain its structure. However free enterprise cannot be conflicted with the progress of the system. Free enterprise is free to go and establish other systems elsewhere if they do not like this state system. Citizens continue to update the structure and show their evolving preferences too. They are free to leave the system at any time and they lose all privileges then. They are always welcomed back at level 1 and then 2+ if they want. People can create non conflicting free enterprises inside that system and compete with the state in efficiency etc. But progress is a state problem/objective. It is not left to happen by accident because someone profits from it in terms of material wealth regardless of the cost to others. It values many things other than money/property a lot more as more important to happiness. Money will never decide the future of this system. It can of course always finance a better system to compete and improve it.
Last edited by masque de Z; 11-12-2015 at 11:46 PM.