Three just in the last few weeks or so.

putting this on in late jan seems mental. dunno about u lot but at the end of an nfl season i've had my fill. then in april or so im well up for the next season to start

put it on in spring/early summer. ok u gotta compete with baseball but i doubt many 88 year olds will be interested in the xfl anyway

Okay, so I managed to find it was LFL. That looks awesome.

WTF is XFL?

A combination of NFL and WWE basically

See, I think "kicking out players that do stupid ****" kind of kills the possibility for maximum swagger and showmanship.

I mean the initial description of the league makes it sound like it's basically for fans who thought Tim Tebow got a raw deal from the NFL for being too Christian.

I don't follow the WWE at all, so idk but it seems like they have a lot of guys like The Rock and John Cena who put on a good show but also maintain a squeaky-clean, family-friendly vibe outside the ring. Of course, that's easier to do when the drama is pre-scripted, but then that's the central conceit of a WWE-style sports league: that it would sacrifice authenticity and athleticism in exchange for showmanship and goofy characters. I'm basically imagining a league where RGIII cuts a pre-game promo and Ochocino has a fun new 2-minute long touchdown celebration every game.

That was the old iteration of the XFL. The new one seems like a combination of NFL and church.

Whose the target audience?

WWE is for under 12s and NFL is for all ages.

Is the concept going to be fake fighting in between a match? If so it sounds a lot of rubbish. A combo of UFC and NFL sounds like a good idea.

I know LOL Peter King but he brought up a good point this morning. He said back when the XFL came out, McMahon cut ties as soon as ratings went down after a few months. Said in order for this to have any shot, he needs to get someone to cough up $500 million and have a 3 year deal. Otherwise, no one will take it seriously.

Rednecks

fantasy football degens

Agreed. This is totally a 'why not both' situation.

Yeah, not only that but the drop from the very best NFL teams playing at their peaks in the late playoffs/superbowl to XFL will be very jarring. They should wait a couple of months until we start Jonesing for footbaw

I think it could be interesting as sort of a testing ground for different strategies. Don't just have the same dip**** good ol' boy coaches who believe in "trusting the defense" and all that BS.

Maybe have a coach who runs the triple option. Hire that coach who always goes for it on 4th down. Coaches who always go for 2. Some of the ideas could carry over into the NFL and improve that product as well.

They rebooted American Gladiators recently, it was awful and no one watched it.

You could do something like one team can never punt. Another team never kicks FG's. Make up like 10 quirky rules and have the head coaches randomly pick one out of a hat before kickoff. I want chaos!

I like the idea of rule changes. My suggestions:

-2 points for all FGs (instead of 3 to encourage teams to go for it more).
-Turn the 2 pt conversion into the 3 pt conversion (goal to goal plays are exciting so encourage more of them).
-Figure out a way to use soccer's goal line technology at the goal line & for first downs (no more of this guessing ****).
-Loosen up the the illegal formation penalty to add some offensive creativity.
-Instead of a coin toss to decide who gets possession at the start of the game, halftime and OT you do a jump ball with 11 on both teams on the field and whoever recovers the ball can advance it like a kickoff and once they are downed they start the drive there.
-If you punt the ball on 4th down you have to play with one less player on the field that play (encourages teams to go for it).
-Teams get unlimited challenges and can challenge anything but once you get two wrong you don't have any more challenges. Someone in the booth reviews the play and makes the call and they have a max of 30 seconds to make a decision.
-On a kickoff the receiving teams starts a drive at the 25 if the kick goes in the endzone (or through it) - except if it goes through the up-rights then they only get it to the 20.
-Get rid of the rule that if you fumble into the end zone it is a touch-back for defense.
-Make defensive pass interference a max of a 25 yard gain.

kind of racist to say black people are criminals isn't it? You know white people get arrested too.

XFL would be better served having the season as the same time as the NFL, just run the games in the morning on Sunday. People are already in football mode. Come SB, people are footballed out, but I think Sunday morning could actually work for them.

Allow six kicks per team per game. A kick is defined as a punt, FG or extra point

White trash football fans (Vince McManon's target audience) that refuse to watch the NFL because of black players kneeling definitely think of white people when you ask them to picture someone in jail.

I thought my message was obvious but that's two people who didn't fully understand it.

To be fair, one was bahbahmickey and his response was to try and rat me to the mods or some **** like that because calling out his racism triggered him.

you think that's why people refuse to watch? I stopped watching this year because I am sick of not knowing what a catch is, the referees blowing the whistle when a fumble is being returned, replays taking forever, and the games taking 3.5 hours to play. If ever there was a time for somebody to take a shot at the NFL, now is the time.

So this league is going to be more extreme? then they will need a way to coax players to leave the nfl. No player is going to play in a more extreme league for less money. If they get Johnny Football that could be an attraction at least for the first season. Good luck with the CTE issue, I hope Vince has a plan for it.

Vince is notoriously ruthless. Don't be surprised if he tries to steal talent from NFL whether it be announcers, players or coaches.

I get that you think some people stopped watching the NFL because of players kneeling. I just didn't think that was a good enough excuse to post what you posted. Even if you weren't trying to be racist that post should be removed - that is the only reason I said anything.

Nobody said anything about me before I posted that so I'm not sure why you think I said something because I was wrongly accused of being a racist after I posted that.

Usually posters are quick to call out a post they perceive as racist - no matter who the poster is. Even if it was tongue in check I'm shocked more people haven't said something to be honest.

Back on topic: I'd be shocked if this league lasts 3 years. Long live the NFL.

NFL is such a garbage product that it really should not be that hard to make a product so much better that it could take over someday.