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04-24-2013 , 11:29 PM
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I just think anyone who gets as much enthusiasm about his FREE MONEY thread as RM did can't actually be considered truly "bad" at all.
He's definitely in the Greear camp of entertaining bad posters
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04-24-2013 , 11:29 PM
hoya, hes bad in a "good" way. he provides hilarity.

Last edited by Anarchist; 04-24-2013 at 11:29 PM. Reason: wat dudd said
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04-24-2013 , 11:32 PM
agci is a clear first rounder.Still another nfl poster that should be included
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04-24-2013 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dudd
He's definitely in the Greear camp of entertaining bad posters
Yeah I said something similar after the Thunderdome debacle but there's also a "dude get your life together" aspect. The Vegas story was just sad. The entire FAQ thread was trying to offer him life advice.
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04-24-2013 , 11:34 PM
Aidsdgci seriously had two enormous threads (lol steelers and bad poasters thread) running simultaneously for an extremely long time almost exclusively dedicated to making fun of him. Elite, elite value.
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04-24-2013 , 11:38 PM
Besides trainwreckog and AngerPush who are the bad SE posters?

[x] petulant child

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Originally Posted by AngerPush
Right. Because everyone loves San Francisco and you and everything about the both of you.

We get it. You are so ****ing awesome, my god. Everything you like is good and everything you hate is bad. You are the ****ing KING OF THE WORLD
[x] Delusional Falcons fan who seems to have the sports knowledge of Skip Bayless

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No. Learn to read.

I'm saying everyone said those things didn't matter, then when the Falcons win, that's what everyone says contributed. Apparently, the Falcons didn't win it...the travel, bye week, early start, etc won it.
[x] Elite thread creator



[x] Thinks he's smart



Lest you think this is all from only one discussion, this is over 10!!! threads in his posting lifetime

First the non-bad posters thread
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Bad beat that your IQ is 80.
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avg 2p2 iq is prob like 102. so i bet a lot have been over that. define elite i guess.
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now lets take IQ scores of everyone and run a regression analysis. be surprised if there's much of a correlation
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I would be more than happy to give you U112.5 on his IQ.
Not only that he bad posts in the bad posting thread, only the truly WOAT can claim this.

Here's some sampling of his defense of himself in the bad posters thread using IQ:

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Originally Posted by AngerPush
It is without a doubt at least 15 points higher than the average SE poster. It's not even close.

Will do a prop bet at even odds up to $1,000 lol

Take 5 SE posters of perceived various intelligence (don't take the five smartest guys), test them, test me, and you will see. There is a reason why guys like Iggy and I have trouble communicating with people of average intelligence.


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Can we try not to fall victim to the logical fallacy "appeal to authority". Just because a good poster thinks another poster is bad doesn't mean we should auto-think said poster is bad.
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Try to use your brain and realize how irrelevant this remark is. I may be a bad poster, who knows, but it isn't a logical response to what I said. We should be avoiding "appeal to authority" and other logical fallacies at all costs. It would make this a better forum.
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It is without a doubt at least 15 points higher than the average SE poster. It's not even close.

Will do a prop bet at even odds up to $1,000 lol

Take 5 SE posters of perceived various intelligence (don't take the five smartest guys), test them, test me, and you will see. There is a reason why guys like Iggy and I have trouble communicating with people of average intelligence.

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Yeah, actually you brought it up. Lol u. Also "aidsgerpush"? C'mon man, I'm sure you can do better.
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Wow hilarious that I get ragged on for talking IQ and then this thread blows up with everyone bragging about their high IQs. Some quality irony there. Love it. Also love how no one is actually specific about their SAT/GRE/GMAT scores except the tool saying he got a "1409" hahaha
And here comes the meltdown...

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Don't think I do. Did the post about me just having fun go unnoticed? I'm just as stupid, lonely and pathetic as the rest of you losers. I have severe autism, a very average IQ, a poor sense of humor, offends easily. I have almost no redeeming qualities at all. I'm at the lowest end of the totem pole. I can't even make friends in a sporting subforum of a poker website. Two things that I love that have loved me back. Yet here I am alone begging for friends. Ppl like schu and PVN somehow make friends and get ppl to like them yet I have no idea how. It just seems so impossible. In my 3+ years I have had many different strategies to obtain companionship. That's all I want. Is just to have a bit of fun on the Internet with supposedly other losers like me that have nothing else to do than talk Bull**** about sports like we have this incredible sense of superiority. Like most people on this forum delude themselves into thinking they could successfully coach an NFL team or something. Yet as pathetic as many of the posters here are, I seem to be the least liked out of everyone and that makes me so incredibly sad. I can't do anything right
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I've given this post a lot of thought, and gone back and forth about whether I should even try to attempt penance, but I figure what the hell, give it a shot.

I know I've been a pretty awful poster way too often in SE. I am posting this to ask for some sort of official reprieve in people's minds, and be given a "clean slate" if you will. If you guys will allow it, I'd like a chance to start over, and for everyone to give me another shot at becoming at least an OK poster.

I understand most of my shortcomings and realize that I need to improve in many ways. Help me to do that. I need to not go on ridiculous angry tirades, limit the smug personal attacks, not get offended at every little thing, and overall chill with the emotional meltdowns.

What say everyone just giving me a second shot at this? From this point on, I hope I can operate on the assumption that when people see a post by "AngerPush" they won't have their preconceived thought that the post must be terrible. Maybe just maybe, those posts will be better. I hope I didn't just make things worse and realize that it's very hard to change opinions that have been constructed over 3+ years of posting.

Thank you all for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,

the new and improved,

AngerPush
But lest you think he got better...

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what's with the quotes? are you in the "third grade"
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SE memes are so hard to keep up with sometimes. You really have to dedicate 10+ hours a day to be elite.
No, you just need to not suck giant donkey dong bro

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2p2 is a unique site.
Yes, it is. However you make it a little bit less unique day by day.

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u pretty much suck at this stuff
We've noticed bro

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Sorry you suck

No, we're all sorry you suck. Very, very sorry.
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04-24-2013 , 11:38 PM
Reason I like Greear, even though he's obv a massive homer, he'll tell it like it is in a hilarious fashion when his teams, or players of those teams underperform.

He does tend to cross the line a fair bit, but his meltdowns are generally entertaining. The diatribe ending with a threat of sending 1 dollar Detroit thugs to rat was classic.
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04-24-2013 , 11:40 PM
I was thinking of using Anarchist's strat but I wanted the truly terrible
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04-24-2013 , 11:40 PM
"You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain"

It's rare thing for someone to be so impactful with less than 400 posts but here we are.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/5648129/odelllllllllll

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one month for losing a bet for same and then completely losing his mind and calling everyone nerds who live in their moms' basement (accurate but still over the line)
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the time had come, sadly (UPDATE: unbanned by popular demand! Surely a mistake though.)
ODELLLLLLLLL definitely died a hero and was able to get a World Series thread named in his honor.

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Take my name down off of this thread before I sue your website.
ODELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL will provide in depth analytical thinking which will mesh nicely with the omnipotent CINCH.

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Cashman is a genius, he signed the number 1,2 and 4 rated free agents.....hard to win a world series that way.....MLB is such a joke, teams just buy championships
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there is no athleticism needed for basebal, go play a real sport
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You guys are a bunch of losers....for real
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so you dont think they bought a championship...delusional
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Atleast Joba's mom will be around to celebrate with the team. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Yeah nobody accepted the bet so whatever
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fight me then matt
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i can't see any of his posts but i want to get in on this

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Yeah he never accepted the bet though........BTW the yanks still bought a world series
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last few pages have been awesome. i hope you guys like me more then odell : /
He will also be providing the internet tough guy, a key requisite for any forum.

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Every single one of you dorks are total pussies and like dick....you know nothing about sports except for what you read on your nerd websites.....running good in sports, that's a laugh.....you guys are such losers its not even funny, actually pretty sad.......if you guys were actually athletic you could be taken seriously but all you do is look at stupid numbers that dont mean anything and believe in your mind that you're smart
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I guarantee i am way more athletic than anyone in here
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haha Wow steroid boy, how much do you love dick?
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What are you guys like 6 years old.....this is so pathetic lol
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lets have this discussion right now.. don't dodge my question because I'm trying to question you.....all you gay ass nerds do is dodge questions when people disagree with you and suck each others dick when they agree
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lol yeah you are real tough behind that keyboard dude
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I'm lame for feeling bad for a guy who just passed away.....and I'm pretty sure you wouldnt make it more than a minute against me.
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Don't speak fatty.
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Hello all, I am back and better than ever and just wanted to say that this is what annoys me about you sports fans. This graph and over analyzing of pointless stuff just makes me want to scream.
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p.s....I'd jack you up in a fight pus pus
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odell I'd have you bite the curb brah
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I would pay more to see odell-GREEEEEEEEEEEEAR than Pacquiao-Mayweather imo.
Teaming with CINCH these two will also provide a kickass nba scouting department.

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Kobe is better than CP3 and Dwight, pretty close with D Wade
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Are you still talking? Kobe wins ringz dude
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/46...69/?highlight=


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04-24-2013 , 11:41 PM
odell just looks like a typical internet troll. Maybe he's some sort of postmodern construction
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04-24-2013 , 11:43 PM
Guys you gotta post rosterz
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04-24-2013 , 11:45 PM
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Guys you gotta post rosterz
GREEAR10
Riverman
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04-24-2013 , 11:45 PM
Odelllllllll the athlete nice
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04-24-2013 , 11:49 PM
Systolic
agdci981
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04-24-2013 , 11:49 PM
Was odell ever confirmed to have or not have other accounts? Seem to remember UNDRAFTED being heavily linked.

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04-24-2013 , 11:50 PM
BOOT don't name undrafteds argh
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04-24-2013 , 11:51 PM
Wonder if Odell is a epip gimmick--Odell is basically a more explicitly aggressive version of epi's shtick.
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04-24-2013 , 11:55 PM
Odell is a great pick

You quoted the post of his best moment, but you really need the context behind it to really appreciate it.

It starts with KBFC making a great post in a random NBA thread:

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You got the right idea, but there are a few problems with your approach:

- AI does not get 3 steals per 10 possessions. He gets about 2.5 per GAME, which for him is about 75 possessions. Obviously he doesn't gamble on every single possession, but his success rate is probably closer to 2.5/75 than 3/10, a factor of 10 difference.

- His 2.5 steals/75 is an absolute measurement. The average PG/SG is going to get about 1.5 steals/75 possessions, so AI is only picking up one extra marginal steal per game over the league average, which I think it's fair to assume is less aggressive and gamble-y (although still obviously some >0 amount of aggro/gamble) than AI.

- When AI gets a steal, it is not a guaranteed layup. In fact, the resulting possession is worth about 1.2-1.3 points on average, which is "only" two-tenths of a point better than an average possession. As someone mentioned, the result of this is that each successful steal is worth somewhere around 1 point on defense and 0.2 on offense ~= 1.2pts total. So given that AI's successful steals are only worth about 1.2 points per game over the average player, he needs to make sure his gambling doesn't cost the team more than 1.2 points over the remaining 72 defensive possessions in order to simply break even.

So let's rewrite your #2:
2. Gamble for steals

9.7x he does not steal, defense is compromised and allows X-1.05 marginal points, where X is the value of the compromised possession, and 1.05 is about the league average possession value. Cost = 9.7*(X-1.05)

0.3x he does steal, defensive value of 0-1.05 = -1.05 points. Resulting offensive possession value of about 1.25-1.05 = +0.2 points. Overall gain = 0.3*(1.25) = 0.4 points.

So the BE equation is 9.7*(X-1.05) = 0.4.
X = (9.7*1.05+0.4)/9.7 = 1.09 points per possession.

So given those numbers, if his failed gambles improve the opponents eFG% by more than about 2%, then the overall value of the steals is negative.

Using your original 30% success rate:
7*(X-1.05) = 3*(1.25)
X = (7*1.05+3.75)/7 = 1.59 points per possession = 27% eFG increase.

Here's the graph for B.E. values of failed-steal defensive possessions vs steal success %:


Using your original estimate of 10 points/7 possessions =1.42 pts/poss when he fails on a gamble, you can see on the graph that he needs to be successful 23% of the time to break even.

Anyway, I'm not going to discuss what the exact inputs should be, and what AI's defensive value actually is. Just thought I'd chime in with a little methodology help.
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Hello all, I am back and better than ever and just wanted to say that this is what annoys me about you sports fans. This graph and over analyzing of pointless stuff just makes me want to scream.
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good post man
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04-24-2013 , 11:56 PM
odell was awesome

p.s. id jack you up in a fist fight pus pus. haha thats great
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04-25-2013 , 12:01 AM
Aidsgdici my #1 overall.
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04-25-2013 , 12:02 AM
still mad about a certain poster not being drafted. hes number 1 overall for sure
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04-25-2013 , 12:03 AM
The longer this draft goes on, the more sure I am that the only two posters worthy of being taken first overall are Cinch and Not Lolo, doubt that there's a third one out there I'm forgetting.
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04-25-2013 , 12:03 AM
adgsici, systolic, and bdidd were my 1, 2, 3. Can't believe someone got the first 2
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04-25-2013 , 12:04 AM
This thread as been outstanding

especially like the inclusion of ADVANCED STATS like locked threads/thread starts
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04-25-2013 , 12:11 AM
I cannot stop laughing at Odell's "better than ever" reemergence, in which his FIRST post is completely ******ed and actually brushes off one of the best posters about basketball on the entire planet after he makes one of the better posts you'll ever read about anything anywhere on the internet.
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