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Originally Posted by borg23
lmao@ acting like the Draymond ejection is why they lost. They were 3-3 with him on the court that series and lost game 7 at home.
That moron went around kicking people all post season with his general goon behavior. Silver didn't even intervene the suspension was automatic from racking up so many flagrants.
Green misses one game and that's a huge deal. Love who you tried telling me is some great player misses the entire series (the fact you can't even admit you were wrong about this tells me all I need to know about you), Irving misses all but one game and that means nothing. Great stuff as usual.
Ah yes the weak warriors who won the championship and then won 73 games- got it. More classic stuff. That's a very weak team indeed. The fact Lebron managed to win 2 games that series with that cast of jokers is actually very impressive. Even Jordan doesn't win that series .
And actually Lebron responded to Boston forming their super team after rotting with trash for 7 years. And he didn't jump on a 73 win team. As usual your "facts" are severely lacking.
We've also seen so called super teams fail miserably- take the Harden Durant Kyrie Nets for example. That blew up spectacularly. Miami worked specifically bc Wade and James aren't selfish.
You might argue Duncan and Lebron have 3 rings as the best player on their own team- but it's not clear cut. What is clear cut is your number 2 Kobe absolutely has 2 rings as the best player on his own team. Of course you don't realize this bc you think Shaq finally hit his stride as a 38 year old with the Cavs.
Win less than 60 with AD is a failure? You're referring to the AD made of glass who actually played most of the season for the first time since the bubble season this year?
I actually think it's more impressive that KD got a 3-1 lead against a fresh Warrior team with Westbrick as his teammate, compared to Lebron going 3-0 once the Warriors were suspended and injured, while his sidekick destroyed the league MVP and "closed".
Btw, the 2010 Celtics were like the current Suns - old, washed up and massive underdog - yet Lebron lost as a -500 favorite by averaging 21 on 34% for the last 3 games in one of the biggest meltdowns in NBA history.. It isn't talked about much because of LeMedia but it happened..
Again, Lebron had a league favorite and organic juggernaut by Year 7 just like Curry, Jokic and Mj did - this required "normal" casts of 1 franchise player that relied on chemistry to win.. Lebron simply gave up on this chemistry learning curve and opted for talent based winning - he rejected the normal rosters of 1 franchise player by obtaining 3 franchise players on 1 team (super-team).
So again, Lebron was the only guy colluding and hand-picking preseason favorites from 2011-2016 - Durant's only mistake was waiting 6 years to respond because it made his moves look late/desperate (warriors) or he got 2nd pickings of old and injured players (harden, kyrie).. Lebron's "decision" basically ruined KD's career but it was intentional - Klutch Sports has purposefully made everyone think that KD's collusions were the bad things while Lebron's monopoly on colluding for the previous 6 years never happened.
And yes, going 1/5 with AD is disqualifying, or having such a horrific fit with Westbrook - that was a skill deficit where Lebron lacked the off-ball game (instinct to play off teammates or expert jumpshooting skill) to fit with Westbrook.. Both Lebron and Westbrook need spacers and off-ball players, so they can't help each other.. This kind of skill deficit and inherent chemistry deficity is disqualifying...
Regarding Kobe, I guess you could say that Pau was a "franchise" player, so Kobe didn't really win with the normal 1 franchise player model, but Kobe still defeated max defensive attention in 09' and 10' (carried scoring load for playoffs and Finals of title run - 10 ppg more than all teammates) - this is quite rare and only happens on the runs that we recognize as the biggest carry-jobs ever such as 94' hakeem, 00', shaq, 03' duncan, 06' wade, 11' dirk, 19' kawhi, 21' giannis, and Jordan's 6 rings..
(we could conceivably exclude the 11' Dirk run for not quite getting to the 10 ppg threshold above all teammates in PO & Finals, and this is the case for 19' Kawhi and 21' Giannis as well - but these runs are generally viewed as carry-jobs and they were achieved with "normal" rosters of 1 franchise player, so I included them).
Last edited by fallguy; 05-02-2024 at 01:57 PM.