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Originally Posted by candybar
Lebron missing a quarter of the games at an age where MJ literally didn't play any games at all isn't exactly a win for MJ.
MJ missed over a quarter of his team's games in 01-02 so that means he must have been all-NBA right?
That isn’t the argument .
Your argument says mj couldn’t play at LeBron level at 35-36-37-38.
Well like I said previously , it’s an incredible dive in skill and endurance the 12 month between 34-35 and 35-36 to claim mj couldn’t be all-nba .
Especially if he would start to miss 25% of game for resting….
Let’s see Lebron and his greatness because he start at 18 (well mostly 19 but w.e)
First season he miss the playoffs while playing at 21-5-6 ( I rounded up to help his stats) transforming a team from 17-65 to a record of 35-47.
Finish mvp 9 o0 .
not bad right ?
Second season
Lebron miss again the playoffs while running at 27-7-7 (career average ) with a 42-40 team .
His all-nba ! Finish mvp 6 with those numbers !
That is just 2 season after mj retired , meaning same competition .
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So candybar opinion mj sucked and couldn’t be all-nba when he return right ?
lets use IF like candybar love to use....
Without any resting MJ first season return in 2002 ,
before the injury mj was at 25-6-5 playing all 46 games !
In his last 20 games up to the injury MJ averaged
27- 6.- 5 on 44%
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n his last 10 games up to the injury MJ averaged
29 - 6.- 6 on 47%
before the Injury (46 games) .
That means he got better as the season progress which is normal .
He transform a team from 19-63 to a 26-20 team before the injury on its way to the playoffs .
Tell me candy bar ,
20 games before the injury does that look like the stats of a young LeBron james being second all-nba in his second season despite his team missing the play off vs similar competition ?
Btw 46 games is just 10-15 games below many latest season where LeBron played 55 games 56 games at the same age where everyone praise his goatness with all-nba level right ?
But mj didn’t take time off tho …..
But yeah mj played with injury and couldn’t make his team wins anymore but he didn’t quit and still played 60 games trying to win injured ….and reducing his stats since it’s so important to you …
Now imagine if mj would have take a bit easier with some rest like lebron act today in an easier era on top of that !
His last season mj ran at 20-6-3 injured leading his team to a 37-45 season .
But mj sucked in your opinion that year and when I compared Lebron first season ( the season right after vs similar competition),
Lebron is great and no one says Lebron sucks despite bringing his team to a worst record and similar stats as a 40 years old MJ with a better team then MJ ever had with Washington !
And LeBron finish mvp 9 that year !
And mj played all those 82 games half injured anyway and u telling us without 25% of resting like LeBron does for many years now, mj couldn’t be all-nba ???
If I use your IF and speculation like u do I surely can say mj , In this weak sauce era with no D , huge amount of resting by almost every players , MJ probably could of been as good as Lebron to be all-nba for many years past his retirement from 1998 easily. …
maybe not at 40-41 but certainly 2-4 years after his retirement....
Last edited by Montrealcorp; 03-10-2024 at 04:52 AM.