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Originally Posted by capone0
Again, YOU KEEP PICKING AN OUTLIER YEAR as evidence of Larry Hughes actual stats. Are you ******ed?
it wasnt an outlier - hughes had other seasons with 18 ppg +, with good D, which is better than nobody pippen in 89'.
and lebron caught him at his peak - hughes was considered a star pickup for the cavs in 2006, just like ANY 22/6/5, 1st team defender would be..
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Originally Posted by capone0
Yes before 89 maybe Lebron had better teams earlier in his career.
But Jordan's CASTS were pretty damn amazing when they won 6 titles in his 7 years in the playoffs.
jordan's teams won based on teamwork, and had less talent than lebron's super teams:
before bosh/love joined lebron, they were superstar #1 options with better stats than pippen ever had - they were arguably the best at their position, just like pippen..
yet they were lebron's 3RD options!!!.. lebron still had wade/kyrie, smh.. and remember - zydrunas/hughes were better than any 2nd option jordan had thru 89'
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Originally Posted by capone0
You again ignore anything but ppg with your points.
the stats prove jordan had less help, since he had to
do more:
he scored 7 more ppg in the playoffs thru each players first 3 rings (31 yrs old),
with equal assists.. see the linked stats
here
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Originally Posted by capone0
You again ignore anything but ppg with your points.
mj averaged 5 more ppg in playoffs with only one less assist (offset by less turnovers), while achieving equal shooting efficiency and greater per posseion efficiency..
obviously, lebron would be a far more dominant player if he averaged 5 more points on better efficiency, regardless of rebounds and assists..
per the definition of #1 option, scoring and clutch scoring is the most important and irreplaceable thing lebron does..
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Originally Posted by capone0
You again ignore anything but ppg with your points.
people overvalue lebron's rebounds and assists.. for example, jordan averaged 4 rebs and 2 assists in 1998 Finals..
but i view his performance as superior to lebron's triple-double because jordan scored 38% of his team's points.. so for lebron to match jordan's load in 2017 finals, he'd need to average 43 ppg versus the warriors.. also, lebron was bad in the 4th with 5.4 points on 50% ts, versus jordan's 11 points in 98' finals
here's the reality - lebron should've expended less energy grabbing tristan's rebounds, and more energy on defense to limit durant's outburst and prevent another fmvp.. but unfortunately, lebron went for the triple-double over defense.. thats not better than jordan, or other greats either