TS, WS, PER, BPM all say its close. How does your brain think its not close. Would like to see your work. Stats+Eyetest only work if both are being used, seems like people ignore stats when it doesnt match your eyetest.

When you have the GOATAids posters like Wooderson, AJ, TWOG, TOLLSTOY on 1 side; you wonder which side is off the rails.

There is 0% chance Curry passes Bron in any stat but 3 pointers (# made, %), FT % RANGZ and even the last is probably low. Advanced stats aren't close between Curry and MJ/Bron. Curry is going to slow down due to adding Durant. Curry is not as durable as Bron; nor does he play D like Bron or MJ.

Shocked you MJ butt huggers would even think Curry has a shot; he's 0 for 2 in finals MVP and wasn't even the best team player on his team's first final win. You guys typically just sort by rangs or finals records.

Warriors run this year was tough.

at least there used to be a debate in this thread... now it just makes you dumber for having read it.

it was started 3-4 years too early of course, but now it's actually relevant... if they take down GSW this year, LeBron becomes a strong 1a imo.

The Curry talk is just boredom or trolling, obviously.

Teams in the finals are giving up wide open dunks because they'd rather not give steph an open three.

Contrast that with LeBron whose main move is to drop his shoulder into someone and shoot around 70% at the free throw line.

Steph will have more titles than LeBron by the end of this decade, he will shatter the 3pt record all time and playoffs.

Winners are remembered more fondly than who had the best usg or vorp, sorry nerds, this is truth

When the Warriors win this series Steph will have 2 titles, 0 Finals MVPs, and 1 pathetic slank vs LeBron's 3 Finals MVPs and 1 pathetic slank. Doesn't seem like much of a contest.

MJ would have never let this happen

Problem with that statement is, how come Jordan crush the west team before 7 games always if that west team was not the best of his conference ?

The difference is right there!
LeBron can't pass much the west by losing to them in the final while having an easy road in the east.

Jordan had tougher road to the final and still beat the west.

People argue Jordan faced weaker competition in the final than LeBron while having to face a little tougher competition in the east?
It does not add up .

If the east Jordan face was barely better than LeBron east, the west in Jordan era should of been much better , Jordan still beat them anyway.
Comon jazz eas a great team .

Jordan dominated the league , east and west , for a very long period

Stockton/Malone 2 of the all time great and Malone when he got beat by Jordan was in his prime.

The only reason those 2 guys have no ring is not because they weren't good enough, it's because of Jordan , Barkley no ring as well = Jordan !

LeBron do not prevent others to achieve being champion even tho his always in the final ...

That what it means being the goat.

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Lol. How many seasons did Stockton and Malone lose to Jordan in the Finals compared to their entire careers? Barkley? The cherry picking is hilarious.

i mean probably a bit biased magic in there but still just to show the impact of jordan.

When kobe still played great and lebron was playing great as well, lot of players could not pick between them while in jordan case, all the great at his time knew who was best and it was not even close with his second contender.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcDBJJkWvDk

Excellent post

When jordan beat barkley, barkley was mpv of the league and in his prime.
Malone in 97 same thing

What is cherry picking ?
want me to point jordan wins when he face players not in their prime ??

people argue jordan did not face good team in the finals,
Well just showing some team he did beat while those HOF players were in their prime...

LEbron has faced dynasty spurs 3 times and gsw 3 times; you really think the finals competition was similar?

jordan was goating it up from 87, probably, he would go on to lose to the pistons every year until his team got better, not him, his team. This really isn't rocket science

well yeah agree, i mean jordan been double teamed his entire career, as soon an all star came in ,taking a bit of load off ,he took off.

hakeem olajuan got a ring because jordan actually retired ( would love to see that final tho, probably greatest challenge for jordan).

But would the sun and barkley or the jazz with prime malone and stockton get swipe by gsw or spurs,
I dont think so but havent watch the spurs played so i dont know.

But if you say easy well, malone is ranked pretty high in score board and stockton as a point guard not bad either right?

So i guess those 2 will have a significant drop in the ranking in the years to come.

Bron with two other HOFers lost in the finals to a team starting Deshawn Stevenson.

I'm sorry, who did Lebron James beat in the Finals last year? Was it not the unanimous MVP who had one of the GOAT regular seasons on a 73 win team?

You're cherry picking because Malone and Barkley didn't win ever. LeBron beat a Spurs team that was probably the best team besides the '16 Warriors not to title. He stopped Durant from titling in '12 - the Thunder were favored in that series. He ended the Pistons elite team.

Jordan faced good teams in the Finals. LeBron has faced multiple teams better than the best team Jordan ever faced. Beating the 73 win Warriors last year is a greater accomplishment than beating the Malone Jazz. Just because the Malone Jazz never titled otherwise doesn't matter.

GS at full strength probably win in 5 last year tbf.

Sonics too

i agree with all of it, but lebron did lose vs worst team that jordan beat, right?
Be has it may, lot of HOF have no ring because of Jordan , whether he faced greatest team ever in the finals or not in the history of basketball, Jordan beat them in any case and maybe the reason less super team existed in the league was "maybe?" the league had better balance.

But either way, Jordan road to the final was much tougher than what lebron faced.
And that should count for something as well.
And that was not just for the years he won but when he faced some of the greatest team ever like the celtic and pistons before reaching the finals.

For jordan reaching the finals earlier in his career was like him make 2 finals(celtics & pistons) if he could beat them before reaching the real final(lakers) !

I mean Lebron is great and i guess no one diminshes his accomplishmeent even if he lived in the weak a$$ east but we should give the same consideration for Jordan facing some team that are weaker than lebron finals team but jordan face a lot tougher competition in the east.

Let's not forget that Labronze has something Jordan does not.

I know English isn't your first language but huh to much of this.