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05-28-2017
, 07:40 PM
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, 07:54 PM
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Focusing on the hall of famers Jordan and LeBron faced in the finals seems pretty disingenuous considering lebrons only real competition in the finals. I'd be curious to better understand the whole picture in that regard. I haven't verified but this is interesting:
Jordan obviously played against much better competition since his road to the finals was so much more difficult. The truth is LeBron has only faced real competition about 7 times. Pistons and Celtics teams were past their prime and LeBron still found a way to quit/lose. Also more context needs to be added to the hall of famers discussion each player has been played. Like LeBron faced a thunder team that was way to young, the spurs core was passed their primes, and an injured warriors team last year.
I think it's interesting in the finals two of the times he won he barely did so with a lot of positive variance and hall of famers bailing him out. Of the 4 losses none of them were competitive at all. A classic skull ****ing 4 times in a row. Role players like deshawn Stevenson, Danny green, Jason Terry, iggy, etc all did very well because they were facing LeBron in the clutch.
To your point tho if LeBron goes into God mode against a healthy warriors team that added is, that is probably more impressive than anything Jordan has done.
Focusing on the hall of famers Jordan and LeBron faced in the finals seems pretty disingenuous considering lebrons only real competition in the finals. I'd be curious to better understand the whole picture in that regard. I haven't verified but this is interesting:
Jordan obviously played against much better competition since his road to the finals was so much more difficult. The truth is LeBron has only faced real competition about 7 times. Pistons and Celtics teams were past their prime and LeBron still found a way to quit/lose. Also more context needs to be added to the hall of famers discussion each player has been played. Like LeBron faced a thunder team that was way to young, the spurs core was passed their primes, and an injured warriors team last year.
I think it's interesting in the finals two of the times he won he barely did so with a lot of positive variance and hall of famers bailing him out. Of the 4 losses none of them were competitive at all. A classic skull ****ing 4 times in a row. Role players like deshawn Stevenson, Danny green, Jason Terry, iggy, etc all did very well because they were facing LeBron in the clutch.
To your point tho if LeBron goes into God mode against a healthy warriors team that added is, that is probably more impressive than anything Jordan has done.
Can break it down
86-88 lost to the celts and pistons, beat a 42-40 cavs
89-90 beat some really good teams but lost to detroit
91 beat bucks and a pistons team (50wins) where thomas broke down. (I hate people who say the team was old, it wasn't old, Thomas was injured. Only played 48 games that year and his PER/TS went from 21>15, 56%>44%) and obviously a lakers (58wins) team that wasnt that great. Magic declined and Worthy got hurt.
Gotta go work so can continue later if need be.
Not sure if that picture also takes into account the lockout season lebron had, since he played a knicks team on a 48 win pace, pacers 52, boston 50, thunder 58.
Jordan played against way tougher in the 80s in the east, no doubt. However in his champ runs, I dont think its that far ahead. I'll just say Michael faced better competition in the eastern conference but weaker in the finals.
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