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labron
182 30.43%
MJ (Michael or Maple)
319 53.34%
Therapist
8 1.34%
George Mikan
5 0.84%
Shaq Attaq
21 3.51%
Wilt the Stilt (100 pts yo)
13 2.17%
Timmy "Big Fundamentals" Duncan
20 3.34%
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9 1.51%
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18 3.01%

05-26-2017 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
I am just laughing when I read people saying Jordan rodman and pipen could not play defense...
That's nothing like I said.

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
...and loose vs the warriors.

I see , the player today can do it but all the great before could not adjust ,zzzzz
That's why I said it becomes a different story if the Bulls were given 12 months.

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
On one side we say LeBron has a weaker team then Jordan and they did beat the warrior but somehow , with a better team surrounding Jordan, they couldn't beat the warriors .

Pure logic right there.
I don't think LeBron has a weaker crew around him than Jordan.

So, basically everything you said had nothing to do with what I said.

So, I'll repeat what you just said...

Pure logic right there.
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05-26-2017 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ec_outlaw
You're not very good at this. If I was arguing for the Jordan side, having your argue along with me would make me consider changing sides. Your posts, and "points", are that bad.
I'm not sure if you are referring to me.

I'm just pointing out things that I think.

I think MJ is the GOAT, but LeBron arguments have merit.

Isn't the logical thing to do is accept that?

This thread is blind to people that can't accept that the other guy has his merits.
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05-26-2017 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
I'm not sure if you are referring to me.

I'm just pointing out things that I think.

I think MJ is the GOAT, but LeBron arguments have merit.

Isn't the logical thing to do is accept that?

This thread is blind to people that can't accept that the other guy has his merits.
he's probably talking about monty, you're doing this properly.
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05-26-2017 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
I'm not sure if you are referring to me.

I'm just pointing out things that I think.

I think MJ is the GOAT, but LeBron arguments have merit.

Isn't the logical thing to do is accept that?

This thread is blind to people that can't accept that the other guy has his merits.
Nope, not directed at you. Sorry about that. My response was directed at the same person yours was. You're able to accept people on the other side have valid arguments. Some people itt aren't able to do that.

I love the back and forth between people posting legit arguments. Not everyone is doing that unfortunately.
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05-26-2017 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
That's nothing like I said.



That's why I said it becomes a different story if the Bulls were given 12 months.



I don't think LeBron has a weaker crew around him than Jordan.

So, basically everything you said had nothing to do with what I said.

So, I'll repeat what you just said...

Pure logic right there.
first, was not aim at you.
two, saying jordan has not have better teammates , you have the minority opinion around here
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05-26-2017 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ec_outlaw
Nope, not directed at you. Sorry about that. My response was directed at the same person yours was. You're able to accept people on the other side have valid arguments. Some people itt aren't able to do that.

I love the back and forth between people posting legit arguments. Not everyone is doing that unfortunately.
Yeah, there's a lot of bad blood I see.

e.g. like use of the word "absurd" when I suggest a 73 win team could beat another team. Really? Tell me you think I'm wrong, I can deal with that, but the notion isn't absurd.
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05-26-2017 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ec_outlaw
You're not very good at this. If I was arguing for the Jordan side, having your argue along with me would make me consider changing sides. Your posts, and "points", are that bad.
about you tell us your arguments for jordan or lebron than will compare...

Just saying you are wrong and say no arguments is even more worst.
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05-26-2017 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by electricladylnd
Just an absurd take. The Bulls are perfect to stop the Warriors, they had amazing length to defend the perimeter, maybe the greatest perimeter defensive team ever.

People were saying that same thing last year and they got beat by Lebron and the Cavs. That Cavs team isn't talked about as a GOAT.
Let me add onto your point with some words written by bulls beat writer Sam Smith in 1998 after a win over Robinson and Duncan.

Attacking the basket was in the Bulls' game plan against the Spurs, further evidence of their intention to go longer stretches with their so-called dream lineup of athletic players, all between 6-foot-6-inches and 6-10, all essentially perimeter players, trying to neutralize strength with quickness, size with all-around ability.

"The way the league is right now," said Jordan, who led the Bulls with 30 points, "and for the last eight, nine years, it's more versatile players who are more important. To some degree you can survive without a dominant center.
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05-26-2017 , 08:16 PM
That's the great thing about it, I don't have to make any arguments. They've all already been made. Even as an old, I'm in the LeBron GOAT camp, but also accept there's arguments for both sides. Some of those arguments are good. Some are yours and Gerb's.

That's the thing you're missing. MOST of the LeBron fans make their argument, and are ready to hear, and accept, the counter arguments. MOST of the Jordan fans won't do that. It's simply "nope, Jordan is better because I say so. End of discussion". That's the category you've fallen into.
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05-26-2017 , 08:18 PM
Rodman at center with Kukoc and Pippen filling out the front court on a full time basis would run with any team of all time. Rodman took shaq straight up regularly and played him as well as anyone at the time.

Orlando had the shaq surrounded by 3pt shooters lineup and a motivated Mike swept them in the east finals after going 72-10. People act like there weren't teams back then who weren't shooting threes.
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05-26-2017 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ec_outlaw
That's the great thing about it, I don't have to make any arguments. They've all already been made. Even as an old, I'm in the LeBron GOAT camp, but also accept there's arguments for both sides. Some of those arguments are good. Some are yours and Gerb's.

That's the thing you're missing. MOST of the LeBron fans make their argument, and are ready to hear, and accept, the counter arguments. MOST of the Jordan fans won't do that. It's simply "nope, Jordan is better because I say so. End of discussion". That's the category you've fallen into.
Curious you would show me where am I would not hear arguments and not having an open mind when I clearly said in the past , LeBron winning this year and next year bing MVP he would be ahead of Jordan .

Also saying that imo Jordan had the best peak but LeBron will probably finish with a better career ( longevity) .

If that is not accepting arguments from LeBron side than I don't know what is...

Has for my last comment on Jordan, I was pointing at those that said if Jordan had a better team, makes no sense than saying they could not play in this league now if LeBron has a weaker team but been able to beat the warriors.

Unless you put LeBron not just ahead of Jordan, but way ahead which imo is laughable.

You can't have it both ways .
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05-26-2017 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerb iLL
Rodman at center with Kukoc and Pippen filling out the front court on a full time basis would run with any team of all time. Rodman took shaq straight up regularly and played him as well as anyone at the time.

Orlando had the shaq surrounded by 3pt shooters lineup and a motivated Mike swept them in the east finals after going 72-10. People act like there weren't teams back then who weren't shooting threes.
Orlando shot 20 3s per game. Golden State shot 32 last year. They also shot them a lot better (38 to 42%).

And Orlando had the short line. Warriors with that line would be shooting 35+ a night and probably a percent or so better.

Orlando 3 point shooting and Golden States isn't even comparable.
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05-26-2017 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
Orlando shot 20 3s per game. Golden State shot 32 last year. They also shot them a lot better (38 to 42%).

And Orlando had the short line. Warriors with that line would be shooting 35+ a night and probably a percent or so better.

Orlando 3 point shooting and Golden States isn't even comparable.
Those are intimidating stats, for sure. But if this year's bulls could beat the warriors, pretty sure Rodman pippen Jordan and company could find a way.
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05-26-2017 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerb iLL
Those are intimidating stats, for sure. But if this year's bulls could beat the warriors, pretty sure Rodman pippen Jordan and company could find a way.
Great argument
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05-26-2017 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Iwreckshop
Great argument
Yeah, this unstoppable juggernaut might not really roll over 3 of the best defenders in the league in the past 30 years if they were held to their season low in points by a fringe playoff team from this year.

The same fringe playoff team that was a healthy Rondo away from beating an overrated Celtics squad that bron fans are patting themselves on the back for beating.

It's alright, we're about to Witness™ another finals loss. It's almost like its more likely historically that LeBron loses in the finals than wins. We can Uncle Rico that fact all we want but at the end that's what it is.
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05-26-2017 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerb iLL
Yeah, this unstoppable juggernaut might not really roll over 3 of the best defenders in the league in the past 30 years if they were held to their season low in points by a fringe playoff team from this year.

The same fringe playoff team that was a healthy Rondo away from beating an overrated Celtics squad that bron fans are patting themselves on the back for beating.

It's alright, we're about to Witness™ another finals loss. It's almost like its more likely historically that LeBron loses in the finals than wins. We can Uncle Rico that fact all we want but at the end that's what it is.
Clever! And original!
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05-26-2017 , 09:43 PM
Because the Bulls of 2017 beat the GSW 1 game during regular season, that means Jordan's bulls would beat this GSW team in the playoffs.

Why did I never think of that. Wow.

Man, if I used that kind of logic I'd be unstoppable.


LeoTrollStoy, is that you?
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05-26-2017 , 10:05 PM
Ron Harper is always underrated when talking of the Bulls
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05-26-2017 , 10:06 PM
Just pointing out that one of the weaker iterations of the Chicago bulls hung a loss on this unassailable basketball team that won 73 last year but closed the season on a 3 game slide that cost them a ring.

The best iteration of the team, the one that won three straight, would probably figure out a way to give these three point wizards a run for their money.
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05-26-2017 , 10:06 PM
Horace Grant also very good
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05-26-2017 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerb iLL
Just pointing out that one of the weaker iterations of the Chicago bulls hung a loss on this unassailable basketball team that won 73 last year but closed the season on a 3 game slide that cost them a ring.

The best iteration of the team, the one that won three straight, would probably figure out a way to give these three point wizards a run for their money.
That Bulls team on 96 that lost back to back games to Denver and Phx. Both teams sub 500.

Man that Bulls team couldn't even beat the current Bulls team.

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05-26-2017 , 11:43 PM
If Popovich doesn't have a brain fart, and Draymond doesn't get suspended, it's very likely Bron only has 1 title.
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05-26-2017 , 11:45 PM
Or if he didn't make the superman block on iggy too
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05-26-2017 , 11:49 PM
The Popovich gaffe is unexplainable.
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05-27-2017 , 12:04 AM
A lot of ifs that could result in him having 5 rings too
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