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View Poll Results: GOAT?
labron
184 30.31%
MJ (Michael or Maple)
325 53.54%
Therapist
8 1.32%
George Mikan
5 0.82%
Shaq Attaq
21 3.46%
Wilt the Stilt (100 pts yo)
14 2.31%
Timmy "Big Fundamentals" Duncan
20 3.29%
"Roger Murdock"
3 0.49%
Enchanted AIDS Wang (er, HIV+?)
9 1.48%
Larry Legend (+ HM to Bill Russell's laugh)
18 2.97%

01-31-2017 , 11:30 PM
Never forget. The most beautiful part about that block could be LBJ reading Curry's pass and taking off for the block immediately.



LBJ > MJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else.

Last edited by grizy; 01-31-2017 at 11:35 PM.
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01-31-2017 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Enrique
I started reading Playing for Keeps by David Halberstam. It's a Jordan biography (sort of). It seems like a bunch of people in the thread assume that if Jordan hadn't left for baseball, they would have won 8 championships in a row. But this seems a bit crazy when thinking about it more rationally:
1) They probably exceeded their EV winning 6 in the first place. In particular, they had no significant injuries, Jordan managed to miracle-win Game 5 in 96 when extremely sick, they had several series go to Game 7 (against the Knicks and the Pacers)
2) Halberstam claims Jordan was a better teammate after his sting in baseball. Getting him more motivated to play basketball and also being nicer to teammates. Maybe without the sting, he retires earlier or has players more mad at him.
3) The negotiations between management and players/coaches seem very hostile. Jackson could have left, Jordan could have left (apparently, there was an interest in going to the Knicks), Pippen was so upset he refused to treat an injury for some time. This could have led to the team breaking apart before Jordan reaches 6 championships.
4) Going 6-0 seems on the lucky side.

Anyways, the book is quite interesting.
To my understanding about his interest in going to the Knicks: it was basically only to use them as leverage to get the Bulls to increase his salary.
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02-01-2017 , 07:49 AM
One thing I forgot to mention in my argument is both players peak years.

08-09 LeBron was better than 88-89 Jordan.

Reg Season

Jordan

PER - 31.7
TS - .608
VORP - 11.8
BPM - 12.2
WS/48 - .308

LeBron

PER - 31.7
TS - .591
VORP - 11.6
BPM - 13.0
WS/48 - .318

Playoffs

Jordan

PER - 28.4
TS - .598
VORP - 1.4
BPM - 11.2
WS/48 - .293

LeBron

PER - 37.4
TS - .618
VORP - 2.9
BPM - 18.2
WS/48 - .399

As you can see, Jordan just pips LeBron in regular season, but playoffs, its not even close. Both players weren't on ring teams. You can argue LeBron's team was more awful but whatever.

I still think Jordan is the GOAT now, but people acting like its over and he cannot catch up, its just a joke.
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02-06-2017 , 06:07 PM
Brady takes down another SB. Can you imagine him getting on TV saying "Waaaahhh..I need more help to win. Waaaaahh go get me Antonio Brown, waaaahhh go get David Johnson Bill or I can't win." Never mind Gilbert has an all time record pay roll. I wish somehow Lebron could play for Bill Belichik.
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02-07-2017 , 02:44 AM
Isn't Belichik basically popovich? Ya lebron probably has 2-3 more ships right now with the goat coach.
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02-07-2017 , 03:37 AM
BRON 100% called bank on that 3 to tie tonight. Incredible.
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02-07-2017 , 09:53 AM
People hate LeBron so much when Tom Brady wins a Super Bowl the first thing they think of is how much better he is than LeBron. Lol so random
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02-07-2017 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
Brady takes down another SB. Can you imagine him getting on TV saying "Waaaahhh..I need more help to win. Waaaaahh go get me Antonio Brown, waaaahhh go get David Johnson Bill or I can't win." Never mind Gilbert has an all time record pay roll. I wish somehow Lebron could play for Bill Belichik.
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02-07-2017 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mullen
People hate LeBron so much when Tom Brady wins a Super Bowl the first thing they think of is how much better he is than LeBron. Lol so random

It's all good man.

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02-07-2017 , 01:06 PM
jesus talk about trying too hard and wanting
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02-07-2017 , 01:19 PM
It's not even accurate. Jerry West went 1-8 in the Finals. Plus making the Finals >> not making it.

It's just odd to think of Lebron when Brady wins. When the Pats won I didn't think of how the 2016 Warriors choked away the NBA Finals and how they could never pull off that great comeback.
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02-07-2017 , 01:38 PM
That "LBJHatersUnited" can't even use correct grammar when writing out stuff that clearly means way too much to them sums it up pretty well. Also, wow, AJ follows a group called "LBJHatersUnited", talk about embarrassing.
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02-07-2017 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22
That "LBJHatersUnited" can't even use correct grammar when writing out stuff that clearly means way too much to them sums it up pretty well. Also, wow, AJ follows a group called "LBJHatersUnited", talk about embarrassing.
you're clearly hating, everyone knows the best jokes are memes with ~50 words
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02-07-2017 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mullen
It's not even accurate. Jerry West went 1-8 in the Finals. Plus making the Finals >> not making it.

Pretty sure the highest losing margin in the finals was the ppg difference when he got slaughtered by the spurs in his prime. I think that was the year he literally got cramps? Lol. Not 100% sure. The second time he got sonned by the spurs and after Dirk made him his bitch.

Making it to the finals and weighing the value of that accomplishment is completely dependant on the context. Making the finals in the east is a cake walk compared to the west the last 7 years. That's why he has avoided the western conference his whole career while jumping to super teams. It's shrewd on the one hand but cowardly on the other.
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02-07-2017 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22
That "LBJHatersUnited" can't even use correct grammar when writing out stuff that clearly means way too much to them sums it up pretty well. Also, wow, AJ follows a group called "LBJHatersUnited", talk about embarrassing.


Cool story but you'd have to be a weirdo to seriously care about the grammar on a meme and I don't follow the page.
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02-07-2017 , 11:15 PM
Is there a worst poster in SE, or 2p2 as a whole, than this moron? Sounds like a ****ing parrot repeating the same **** over and over and over. Did LeBron run over your dog, **** your mom, deny you an autograph, or something else(besides embarrass "the greatest team ever" last year?"
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02-08-2017 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn
Pretty sure the highest losing margin in the finals was the ppg difference when he got slaughtered by the spurs in his prime. I think that was the year he literally got cramps? Lol. Not 100% sure. The second time he got sonned by the spurs and after Dirk made him his bitch.

Making it to the finals and weighing the value of that accomplishment is completely dependant on the context. Making the finals in the east is a cake walk compared to the west the last 7 years. That's why he has avoided the western conference his whole career while jumping to super teams. It's shrewd on the one hand but cowardly on the other.


I assume since you weight his losses more at certain times and diminish his accomplishment of making many Finals, you also weight his win in beating the greatest regular season team OAT extra as well?

Oh no, you just claim it was rigged. Lol u
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02-08-2017 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ec_outlaw
Is there a worst poster in SE, or 2p2 as a whole, than this moron? Sounds like a ****ing parrot repeating the same **** over and over and over. Did LeBron run over your dog, **** your mom, deny you an autograph, or something else(besides embarrass "the greatest team ever" last year?"
This x100. Often times I've found myself reading his posts and wondering what this person must be like in real life. It's funny, he cross pollinates sports too. I'm a Canucks fan and he just rails on a few players there/the team as a whole. As far as I know he's not even from Canada/Vancouver, or even really follows hockey which makes it even more peculiar, but he just non-stop whines with such contempt in his posts I don't even understand.

Like I'm genuinely not even mad (and as a Canucks fan, blah blah heard it all, yes they suck, yes they rioted in 2011 when we lost in game 7 finals, sedin twins are 'soft', ok cool story bro try to at least be clever and not just full of rage/hatred) but more just bemused and actually feel a little pity for him cause I highly doubt he's any different in real life. Does everyone just mentally tune him out so he's just shouting at clouds or how has he not been banned yet or anyone else called him out for truly posting worthless **** day in and day out? I guess it doesn't matter, really. Only ever blocked about 2 posters lifetime, but he's finally made the list, only issue is when someone quotes his posts you have to read his garbage.

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02-08-2017 , 12:59 AM
Just guessing, but I think he's like the special kid. Everyone is annoyed by him, but they just go "aww, isn't he cute"?, and try to not let him bother them.
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02-08-2017 , 02:42 AM
Who are these minions?

Rhetorical question--no one knows or cares.

I just appreciate the endorsements. Thanks.
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02-08-2017 , 04:57 AM
Are you in high school though!
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02-08-2017 , 05:43 AM
People that don't like AJ are doing the internet wrong imo. How can you not be entertained by him. He'a SO mad about last year, it's just great to watch.
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02-08-2017 , 07:07 AM


Get danced on.
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02-08-2017 , 09:55 AM
Some guy from a forum

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LUCK:
Now, imagine if the second best player in the NBA other than LeBron who also happens to play on a title contender (Durant) suddenly contracted a life threatening illness and retired well before his time like Magic Johnson did in 1992 (Granted, Magic was a bit older than Durant).
Also imagine the league's best point guard suddenly retired after an injury he could have come back from, well before his time like Isiah did, retiring at only 32 years old (Bye bye, CP3).
Also imagine if a 35 year old legend on a formerly great team's career fell apart due to injuries (Larry, Kobe) and retired.
Now, imagine if a young budding superstar, who might possibly have been LeBron's chief rival died suddenly and unexpectedly (Len Bias and Derrick Rose) before he got a chance to reach his full potential.
Also imagine if the best potential defender of LeBron died in a car accident (Reggie Lewis, Paul George).
So basically, imagine if 2 seasons from now the Heat are the exact same team, playing at the same level. Plus, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul, and Paul George are all out of the league. Combine that with 4 expansion teams in 2 seasons (soon to be 6 in a few more years, right as LeBron is hitting the downside of his prime), sapping a number of future contenders of valuable contributors, while also watering down talent league wide, and you have a mix for LeBron and the Heat to go on one hell of a title hording run.
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02-08-2017 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
Brady takes down another SB. Can you imagine him getting on TV saying "Waaaahhh..I need more help to win. Waaaaahh go get me Antonio Brown, waaaahhh go get David Johnson Bill or I can't win." Never mind Gilbert has an all time record pay roll. I wish somehow Lebron could play for Bill Belichik.
This is pretty lol, and while Lebron is obv the best, his bitching about Cavs spending money is ridiculous. Gilbert spends and spends and spends. Lebron should just go play and shut his mouth.
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