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Originally Posted by Carnivore
I voted for Jordan in whatever year I voted. By about 2018 I had changed my mind and probably would vote Lebron since then.
But I don't mind the idea of Jordan as GOAT at all. It's a valid opinion. But Lebron is definitely the best player of the post Jordan era. And yet the guy who makes 90% of the posts in this thread thinks Kobe is #2 all time and has Lebron at something like number 11. That's what 90% of the posts in this thread are actually about now.
Jordan's carry-jobs in the 89' and 90' Playoffs are far greater than anything Lebron ever did, since the 6th-seeded Bulls were a rookie cast in 89' that took the Pistons to 6 games, while Lebron's high seeds were decorated veterans that got swept by the 07' Spurs or 18' Warriors.. Lebron's 07' run was invalidated when the Spurs revealed that it was achieved by a 22 on 35% sweepee with 6 turnovers per game, while the 17' and 18' Finals revealed what a joke the East was..
It's amazing that the 00's East was the only conference in history that was won by numerous 1-star teams like Iverson, Kidd, and Dwight, yet this is the conference that Lebron diluted by putting the top 3 players in the conference on 1 team ("the decision").. By 2018, the conference had been decimated and Lebron was facing teams led by Al Horford and Victor Oladipo instead of Wade, Kyrie and Bosh.. Jordan routinely averaged 40-45 against teams much better than the Horford Celtics, such as Ewing's Knicks in 89' or Barkley's Sixers in 90'.. Or the #1 SRS Cavs in 89.
Ultimately, Kyrie played 12 of 14 games in the 15' East Playoffs, while Love was the only all-star sidekick in the 18' East, so the only time that Lebron took a 1-star team to the Finals was when everyone was doing it (Iverson, Dwight, Kidd twice)..
Finally, Love averaged 20 ppg on good efficiency against the only top 5 SRS teams that Lebron faced in the 18' Playoffs (Raps, Warriors), so Lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with weak scoring and efficiency from a sidekick... In addition to never carrying weak help over top teams, he never defeated max defensive attention either (never carried scoring load on championship level).. Lebron cannot carry the load vs top teams because he lacks sufficient brand at carry-job volume (too ball-dominant), thereby requiring all-time scoring help - this includes "franchise players" at 2nd
and 3rd option.. (aka guys that were asked to build something from scratch and were All-NBA before the winning spotlight of titles).