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Backyard football bears little resemblance to real football. If you tried out for college football as a walk on and told the coach that you had four years of backyard football, he'd put that down in his book as zero years of football. Whereas playing soccer for 5 years in a dirt patch somewhere in Cameroon will definitely make you better.

sure, but that speaks to the relative difference in complexity, expense, and various other things that separate the 2 sports

with or without goaline technology that kid from Cameroon will be equally as effective when he goes and plays in a British academy or whatever

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06-29-2010 , 05:44 PM

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yeah and like madden is totally different. you sit on your couch and push buttons and ****.

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06-29-2010 , 05:47 PM

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I mean, the AL and NL have completely different lineup rules ffs (the designated hitter) that have an impact on the game many, many times larger than these simple fixes of soccer would, and these teams switch back and forth between the two sets of rules about half a dozen times per year, including twice during the world series.

Yet somehow, miraculously, the game manages to survive.

(That's not to say this isn't a point of contention fwiw)

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06-29-2010 , 05:47 PM

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Whereas playing soccer for 5 years in a dirt patch somewhere in Cameroon will definitely make you better.

lolwut? What you're talking about is completely unrelated. If you told a USA soccer coach that you played soccer on a dirt patch in NYC for 5 years he'd also laugh at you and put "0 years of soccer experience" unless there was some reason to think the level of competition on these dirt patches is extraordinarily high. In developed countries, if you're good at sports (football, soccer, anything) you play for organized teams, not on ****ing dirt patches. If you play backyard football instead of starting for your HS team, the problem isn't that you're playing a different version of the game, it's that you probably suck.

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06-29-2010 , 05:53 PM

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yeah and like madden is totally different. you sit on your couch and push buttons and ****.

yeah, and Madden is way different than NCAA!

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06-29-2010 , 05:56 PM

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Nah man, it's just part of American sports. In the Dominican Republic, only the lucky upper-class kids who play in a real ballpark with a hitter's eye and a four-man ump crew are considered by MLB scouts.

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06-29-2010 , 06:41 PM

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this post is reaffirming my prejudices against foreigners and how stupid they are when it comes to sports. or anything else really.

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06-29-2010 , 08:20 PM

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lolwut? What you're talking about is completely unrelated. If you told a USA soccer coach that you played soccer on a dirt patch in NYC for 5 years he'd also laugh at you and put "0 years of soccer experience" unless there was some reason to think the level of competition on these dirt patches is extraordinarily high. In developed countries, if you're good at sports (football, soccer, anything) you play for organized teams, not on ****ing dirt patches. If you play backyard football instead of starting for your HS team, the problem isn't that you're playing a different version of the game, it's that you probably suck.

I think I see where the two of you aren't connecting.

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06-29-2010 , 08:29 PM

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I saw exactly what he said. What I said is that comparing backyard football in America to dirt patch soccer in Cameroon is lol. T50 also illustrated why his post is ******ed.

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06-29-2010 , 09:16 PM

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I saw exactly what he said. What I said is that comparing backyard football in America to dirt patch soccer in Cameroon is lol. T50 also illustrated why his post is ******ed.

hmm... need to adjust my level-ometer then.

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06-30-2010 , 03:39 AM

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this whole debate has been framed by too many in-the-box 'solutions' that match what other sports do.

one thing that FIFA has right is headsets allowing the various referees to communicate.
I see no reason why they cannot have a 4th official watching the game on HD screens with multiple angles and DVR capability chiming into the discussion in real time.
The human element should be kept as much as possible to the humans playing the game, not the rule enforcers.

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06-30-2010 , 03:41 AM

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You would think that calling a goal would be the one call that should be impossible to screw up, though. I mean, the officials were about the only ones in the stadium that didn't see it go in.

As for video replay, FIFA will NEVER put it into effect, while the same people head it. The reason is simple: FIFA has no incentive to do it. Before you start saying, "Lol, everyone is talking about the terrible officiating, etc," think about most peoples actions, though. How many decided to turn off their TV's and decided to not support the World Cup until officiating comes up to par and/or replay is put into effect? Probably very few. FIFA knows that it's the World Cup, people are going to watch, regardless. Until their profit line starts going down, they're never going to resort to adding something that is controversial that could cause them to lose fans and upset players.

i've stopped watching the NBA. You put a ****ty, near fraudulent product out there and you end up with the fan base you deserve.

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06-30-2010 , 03:52 AM

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and I never understand protecting the beautifulness of the game as if it was all laid out in stone like the Ten Commandments when the game was created. Do you think if James Naismith forsaw a day with replays to help determine whether a ball beat the clock in basketball that he would've forbade it? Do you think Abner Doubleday was like, "Let there be no machines used to get the strike zone correct" in the 19th century? Do we wish American football would go back to the days of no forward passes?

Humanity is evolving. Sports should evolve with that.

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06-30-2010 , 03:53 AM

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a sport that did not have a small penis would be willing to let the beautiful game sell itself, rather than have controversy sell it

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04-30-2011 , 01:28 PM

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JFC. Can we please ****ing get this in motion.

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04-30-2011 , 02:02 PM

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a sport that did not have a small penis would be willing to let the beautiful game sell itself, rather than have controversy sell it

like Bowls and Polls and contenders getting to design 30% of their schedule?

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Rumours are that goal line technology will be given the go ahead today. Expect an announcement shortly.

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Bump

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06-18-2017 , 04:25 PM

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The current format is awful imo. Checking every close play is not healthy for the sport. The essence of the game is to celebrate goals, with this format you can't celebrate goals.

I rather have a much restricted format in which teams have two wrong challenges per tournament or something.

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06-18-2017 , 04:26 PM

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Seems like VAR is grossly going to help defense more than offense

What happens if offside is (wrongly) called on scoring opportunity?

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06-18-2017 , 04:30 PM

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Seems like VAR is grossly going to help defense more than offense

What happens if offside is (wrongly) called on scoring opportunity?

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I think they are going to have to steam line it.

"Play to the whistle."

Players are just going to have to continue, scored then go to the review if it's a close call. I've always said adv should be with the attackers anyway.

It's going to be dubious as well, how many phases of play do you take it back from as well? There is no doubt going to be a hell of a lot of stuff to iron out until it's ready to go.

I don't know how easy or difficult it would be could be to have a gps chip on the chest and instantly say whether or not it was offside. I'd imagine it'd be super difficult as you'd need to do it from the pass that goes through.

Could be an idea that, pen calls and goals scored can go to the VAR but offsides/throw ins/corners etc remain solely on the ref.

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06-18-2017 , 04:35 PM

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Yeah but I don't think that's what's going to happen, if the assistant thinks someone's offside he'll flag it as he always has and in most situations the ref will blow it dead.

Though tonight's 2-0 was a situation where the goal was called off for offside first and then later allowed

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06-18-2017 , 09:26 PM

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The essence of the game is to celebrate goals, with this format you can't celebrate goals.

This was my thought as well. It's already brutal enough having your team score a goal and then sweating whether the offsides flag was up or not for a few seconds. Now you have to wait and see if the ref's getting buzzed then wait on a replay review. Even if the goal stands, the moment is lost.