Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1

02-05-2020 , 12:20 AM
Duane Holmes also scored for Derby County today in the FA cup. He’s been on a nice little run of form for them. They play Manchester United in the next round.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
02-05-2020 , 12:40 AM
still no alphonso davies or jonathan david, or even cyle larin
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
02-18-2020 , 05:53 PM
17 year old Giovanni Reyna out here assisting Champions League match winners against Mbappe and Neymar but tell me again how 20 year old Paxton Pomykal is the crown jewel of the Developmental academy and not ready for Europe. MLS incentivizes guys like him to stay and he will never be good enough to be a relevant player on a good international team. Getting to Europe by your 18th birthday should be the minimum requirement for USMNT

Last edited by LFC_USA; 02-18-2020 at 06:03 PM.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
02-18-2020 , 05:54 PM
I'm with you but Reyna is an MLS academy product lmao (and he can play in europe <18 cuz of portuguese passport so)
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
02-18-2020 , 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by prizminferno
I'm with you but Reyna is an MLS academy product lmao (and he can play in europe <18 cuz of portuguese passport so)
If the academy is going to be worth anything then it has to be a stepping stone to Europe. Not your hyped up 20-year old staying in MLS like a baby when he can full well move to Europe.

If Reyna signed a first team contract with NYCFC through his 22nd birthday then the academy is all for naught.

If we want our national team to be relevant again then we need a team of players playing at the highest levels, and that's sure as **** not in MLS
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
02-19-2020 , 08:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC_USA
Getting to Europe by your 18th birthday should be the minimum requirement for USMNT
You have to have an EU passport to play in Europe before age 18 so that's not a possibility for the vast majority of youth players in the US.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
02-19-2020 , 12:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpool
You have to have an EU passport to play in Europe before age 18 so that's not a possibility for the vast majority of youth players in the US.
I'm well aware of this. Reread what I wrote.

Getting to europe by your 18th birthday should be the goal of every MLS Academy guy. Not doing a Paxton Pomykal.

In other words by time you're 18 you should have a move to Europe lined up and actually go.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
02-19-2020 , 06:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC_USA
I'm well aware of this. Reread what I wrote.

Getting to europe by your 18th birthday should be the goal of every MLS Academy guy. Not doing a Paxton Pomykal.

In other words by time you're 18 you should have a move to Europe lined up and actually go.
I read "by the time you're 18" as meaning you should be in Europe before your 18th birthday.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
02-19-2020 , 06:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpool
I read "by the time you're 18" as meaning you should be in Europe before your 18th birthday.
I'm sorry my words weren't interpreted correctly. When we all know 18 is when an American can move I didnt think I had to spell it all out when the point was clearly that an Academy should lead to Europe asap (which is your 18th birthday) if its going to be any bit useful. Not a system that encourages you to sign a contract with your parent club
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
02-19-2020 , 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC_USA
I'm sorry my words weren't interpreted correctly. When we all know 18 is when an American can move I didnt think I had to spell it all out when the point was clearly that an Academy should lead to Europe asap (which is your 18th birthday) if its going to be any bit useful. Not a system that encourages you to sign a contract with your parent club
Academies are there to develop players for the first team of the club not develop players for the National team although that is generally a bi-product of well run academies. MLS franchises, I don't think anyway, don't depend on the revenue generated from sales of players, like a lot of small clubs in Europe are, so their goal should be developing players and getting them into the first team of the club. I'm definitely not one who follows MLS so I could be wrong about that.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
02-19-2020 , 07:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpool
Academies are there to develop players for the first team of the club not develop players for the National team although that is generally a bi-product of well run academies. MLS franchises, I don't think anyway, don't depend on the revenue generated from sales of players, like a lot of small clubs in Europe are, so their goal should be developing players and getting them into the first team of the club. I'm definitely not one who follows MLS so I could be wrong about that.
Exactly and that is precisely the problem I've been banging on about for years. Our USMNT future is in Giovanni Reyna's and Christian Pulisic's. Not Paxton Pomykal's and Reggie Cannon's

MLS clubs are actually deterred from selling players to European clubs
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
02-19-2020 , 08:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC_USA

MLS clubs are actually deterred from selling players to European clubs
Who is deterring them from selling players? I don't follow MLS so am genuinely curious.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
02-19-2020 , 08:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpool
Who is deterring them from selling players? I don't follow MLS so am genuinely curious.
MLS clubs have to share their transfer fee with the league so are never going to recoup what a player is worth. Why sell in that case?
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
03-10-2020 , 08:05 PM
What an uphill and dumb battle to wage. Lmao at Lloyd and Morgan though.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
03-10-2020 , 09:29 PM
Those questions are much dumber than their responses by a large amount imo
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
03-10-2020 , 10:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC_USA
MLS clubs have to share their transfer fee with the league so are never going to recoup what a player is worth. Why sell in that case?
The new CBA gives the teams the vast majority of transfer fees now.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
03-10-2020 , 10:38 PM
LOL what incredibly dumb, asinine and out of touch questions to ask. The world is ending
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
03-10-2020 , 10:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krayz
Those questions are much dumber than their responses by a large amount imo
True story - but completely intentional:

"no they'd crush us by 30"
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
04-14-2020 , 05:25 PM
US Soccer is shutting down the Development Academy. Probably leads to a MLS breakaway league for youth teams.

https://theathletic.co.uk/1746877/20...demy-programs/

The U.S. Soccer Federation has decided to shut down the U.S. Soccer Development Academy program for both boys and girls, effective immediately, multiple sources told The Athletic on Tuesday.

Current MLS clubs and academy directors from some of the non-professional clubs that were part of the inaugural Development Academy season in 2007 have already been informed of the decision to shut down the league.

Sources said that U.S. Soccer could announce the shutdown as soon as Wednesday. The federation’s reasons for shutting down the DA, which includes hundreds of boys and girls teams ranging from the under-13 to under-19 age groups, were not immediately clear. Rumors of the change first appeared last Thursday from Glenn Crooks, New York City FC’s radio play-by-play announcer and a contributor to ProSoccerUSA.

The 2019-20 DA season was cut short due to the global COVID-19 outbreak, and the sources confirmed that it will not resume at any point. Under normal circumstances, the 2020-21 season was set to kick off in September.

All 26 current MLS teams, including the league’s three Canadian clubs, participate in the boys’ DA. It’s not clear what will happen to MLS academies now that the DA is no more, though, for a number of years, a segment of MLS teams have pushed to break away from the DA to start their own, MLS-only academy league. The main reason for this was due to their perception that the DA did not offer a strong enough level of competition.

U.S. Soccer founded a girls’ DA in 2017. In recent months, multiple clubs left the girls’ DA to join the Elite Clubs National League, a competing organization founded in 2009 by directors of coaching for multiple clubs across the country, and includes many of the nation’s top clubs. There is also a boys’ branch of the ECNL, though it is far less robust than the girls’ division.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
04-15-2020 , 02:23 AM
Less is more. Just throw the money out of helicopters over major cities.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
04-15-2020 , 07:15 AM
How does this work with a draft system in place and the threat that youth players can **** off to Europe for free once they hit 18? Seems good for depth but hardly motivation to develop top quality talent.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
04-15-2020 , 10:36 AM
Is the MLS draft only for college players not associated with an MLS youth team? Or is it for all college players regardless of what youth club they played for?
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
05-05-2020 , 10:36 AM
Am I wrong to assume the judge throwing out the women's case and not even letting it go to trial seems like a positive for the men's team as well as the youth program for both men and women. Less money going to the women should be good for the rest.

Also, LOL at the women choosing a time period where they made 75% more (in dollars - not % of revenues) than the men and suing that they didn't make as much as the men.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
05-05-2020 , 04:41 PM
I don't think it'll have any impact on the youth teams. Why would it be a positive for anyone?
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote
05-06-2020 , 10:05 AM
Less money going to the women should mean more money to invest in the other teams.
US Men's National Soccer Team Thread: USA #1 Quote

      
m