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07-19-2019 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by C Bids
If people are interested in watching Gio Reyna is starting tonight for Dortmund in their preseason friendly with Liverpool
I'm interested in watching but for other reasons. Glad hes starting tho
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07-19-2019 , 08:35 PM
Reyna looks way out of his depth
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07-19-2019 , 08:54 PM
Won't be long before summer tournies are strictly held in domes or colder climes.

Just yesterday, a Triathlon was canceled in NY because of health concerns.

When the fittest among us can't exert themselves outside lol game over

A former NFLer, 30-something years old just keeled over in Arkansas - heat related

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/former-...151917323.html
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07-19-2019 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LFC_USA
I'm interested in watching but for other reasons. Glad hes starting tho
American Liverpool fan that watches preseason soccer games folks
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07-19-2019 , 10:08 PM
Reyna had an assist. He's 16 still.

Weah started for Lille
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07-20-2019 , 12:14 AM
I'm an American Dortmund fan (pre GOAT) who got drunk and watched a preseaon game vs Liverpool
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07-20-2019 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Liverpool
Unless you have an EU passport, going to Spain would be really, really, hard as La Liga teams are only allowed 3 non EU players on their roster. You have to be really ****ing good to play for a first team in La Liga. No other countries, that I know of anyway, have the same restrictions.
While this is true, it's also not hard to get nationalized in Spain for anyone from a hispanic country (this includes Brazil). The wait to apply for nationality for someone from South America is 2 years (players with double Mexican nationality qualify for the short wait). Casemiro, Marcelo, Messi, etc. are all legally Spaniards. Actually this is a problem for Madrid right now; they expected Valverde to be nationalized already, and so Rodrygo can't play in September as things currently stand.

My point was really that US football would benefit from taking its models from broader sources and encouraging its top talents to try new locales, particularly when young. English/German football culture are different than Spanish/Italian football.

It's like Zlatan said, when he was at his peak, he was playing in Europe.
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07-20-2019 , 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by royalblue
Obviously I wasn't suggesting Serie A is better than MLS. But it's not better than the PL where Pulisic will play or the Bundesliga where McKennie plays either though. Sure, the US team would be better if more of them played in Spain. But that's because they're not good enough to play in Spain, not because they're just choosing to stay in MLS instead of going to la Liga.
Many of them are good enough to play in second division, and might do better in the long run to take a pay cut, play in second division, or for some poor team like Getafe or Eibar, for two years, and develop. I understand they don't do it, because $$$ now, but there ought to be mechanisms to encourage them to try.
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07-20-2019 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace
My point was really that US football would benefit from taking its models from broader sources and encouraging its top talents to try new locales, particularly when young. English/German football culture are different than Spanish/Italian football.
Of course US football would benefit if more players go to Europe. I would think we all want to see as many go as possible as the level in Europe is infinitely better then it is in MLS. That's not to say there are a lot of roadblocks though. FIFA rules saying you can't go until you are 18 unless you have an EU passport is a major stumbling block for the majority of kids who are good enough to do it. Also, don't forget, while it would be great for our young talents to try new locales, they have to be good enough to make it there and, in the case of Spain they have to be exceptional if they are going to take a non EU spot (even in the b team) from a Brazilian/Argentinian player who likely has more potential then them.
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07-20-2019 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace
Many of them are good enough to play in second division, and might do better in the long run to take a pay cut, play in second division, or for some poor team like Getafe or Eibar, for two years, and develop. I understand they don't do it, because $$$ now, but there ought to be mechanisms to encourage them to try.
You make it sound so much easier then it is.
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07-20-2019 , 08:58 AM
https://www.planetfootball.com/in-de...ung-usa-stars/

American investors bought a club in Denmark with the hope of brining in young US prospects getting them 1st team minutes and selling them to bigger European clubs.

Club is FC Helsingor. They are 2nd division, they were just relegated. They chose Denmark because they don't have some of the restrictions that other countries have with passports and foreign player restrictions. Plus almost everyone speaks English.
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07-20-2019 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace
Many of them are good enough to play in second division, and might do better in the long run to take a pay cut, play in second division, or for some poor team like Getafe or Eibar, for two years, and develop. I understand they don't do it, because $$$ now, but there ought to be mechanisms to encourage them to try.

The catch here is a club like Girona or Tenerife going to take a flyer on a young American when they can get a young Argentine that won’t have as much adjustment to the culture? Some of this is on the clubs that make the decisions as well.

But, you make it sound like Spain is the best place to go to when in reality Fermany is extremely competitive, players can get minutes, and it’s a great quality league. The style of play is attacking and imo, the tactical development that US players can get in Germany is extremely beneficial for the players and US soccer overall.
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07-20-2019 , 10:52 AM
I am shocked that a Spaniard thinks the Spanish league is the best and the best place to go, truly. I hope our guys keep aiming for Germany/England. F Spain and especially lolitaly the most boring league ever
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07-20-2019 , 11:06 AM
Clearly you don’t watch SerieA if you think that it’s the most boring league ever. This isn’t the 90s and Catenaccio isn’t a winning strategy. Though I’m not at all surprised that you’d post that
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07-20-2019 , 11:10 AM
And, I’m sorry but, La Liga is a great league to watch with some really good teams throughout, not just the top 3.
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07-20-2019 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by royalblue
Obviously I wasn't suggesting Serie A is better than MLS. But it's not better than the PL where Pulisic will play or the Bundesliga where McKennie plays either though. Sure, the US team would be better if more of them played in Spain. But that's because they're not good enough to play in Spain, not because they're just choosing to stay in MLS instead of going to la Liga.
I was just explaining why it would be great to have guys playing there after you asked why anyone would want to play there. I'm aware of the road blocks but it's not a **** league and it would be great if we had players playing in Italy
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07-23-2019 , 12:47 PM
Here's an article nobody active in this thread wants to read and, actually, nobody should read it. But I'm weak to data that backs up my own (obvious) suspicions.

https://www.americansocceranalysis.c...-wondos-legacy
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07-23-2019 , 01:15 PM
What is his point? That they should have lost anyway so it doesn't matter that he blew the chance to win?

Should I invest the time for the remaining 85% of the article?
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07-23-2019 , 01:18 PM
Nobody should read it b/c it's a **** article.

First half talks about how Belgium dominated the match and how if they played a bunch of times Belgium would win. No ****, they're ****in' Belgium, but in that moment, if Wondo converts, USA are 99% to win.

Second half talks about how it wasn't a "sitter" and then gives video evidence of chances that were not even remotely similar to Wondo's.

I'm not even sure what the point of the article is. Is Wondo supposed to have gotten a bunch more chances with the USMNT? He's 36 now, and wasn't ever that good to begin with. The blown chance in 2014 doesn't have that much to do with it. If he was 21 when he missed that chance, but clearly the best forward in the pool, then fans wouldn't hold the miss against him and would still call for him to get more chances.

Finally, a lot of people hate him b/c he seems like an *******. Not a match goes by where I don't see him bitching at a teammate or trying to pick a fight with an opposing player.
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07-23-2019 , 02:18 PM
I also don’t get the point of the article. There are some good points raised and it is true that Jones+Dempsey also cacked some good chances themselves. But, as FK said, Wondo is 36 and was 31 when that miss happened. He was at the end of his international career and the team was going to move on from him anyway.
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07-23-2019 , 02:26 PM
Jesus LK you're better than that.

No **** Belgium was better, they were full of World Class players. The fact that Tim Howard had an all-time great performance and we had a ****ing sitter, an absolute sitter, fall to our donkey MLS all-time leading goal scorer who never should have been near the NT and anyone with a brain said that at the time, to bink a win over a team that good is the point. This is almost as bad as the people saying he was offside when he was clearly clearly clearly on
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07-23-2019 , 03:08 PM
Dempsey had a better chance in the waining moments.. lol
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07-24-2019 , 10:15 PM
Chelsea have loaned Miazga back to Reading which pretty much confirms that our ceiling for him is getting more and more likely to be "slightly better Jay Demerit" as opposed to "CB that is viable in EPL"
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07-25-2019 , 01:05 AM
Slightly better than Jay DeMerit is a clear cut first XI for current USMNT so I'll take it
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07-26-2019 , 12:32 PM
what are peoples thoughts on Jackson Yueill
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