In 2013, USA played 16 competitive matches. (Non-friendlies) We went 13-2-1.
That is far more impressive than England's "unbeaten" streak, as they played 6 competitive matches going 4-0-2. Congratulations on beating up San Marino and Moldova to continue that unbeaten streak, folks. San Marino wouldn't even give Belize a game!
England looked good the previous 2 matches to nail down their group; they have looked very unimpressive the entire year. I'd say USA USA USA has momentum, given we're the Kings of CONCACAF. England? Grats on barely rubbing off Ukraine for your group.
I said 3 years - Why are you suddenly comparing 2013? Btw England's results in 2013 are far more impressive than the USA's anyway if you count friendlies (given that most of the teams the USA play against would struggle against League One sides). England haven't lost for 22 competitive matches.
You lost to Honduras and Costa Rica, the best team you beat was Mexico who are awful and every other teams you beat are lolbad.
In England's 22 games they beat + drew with Switzerland (Euro 2012 qualifying group - in which they were also unbeaten), drew with France, beat Ukraine + Sweden, drew with Italy (Euro 2012), went unbeaten in World Cup qualifying in a group that contains Ukraine + Poland (both are better than Mexico and are equal to or better than the USA).
England have looked unimpressive because of Roy Hodgson's management style - he likes to make teams hard to beat. He finally had England playing attacking football vs. Montenegro + Poland at last and England actually looked great for the first time in ages.
Kings of CONCACAF is not an achievement lol.
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yeah no thanks. im no baller and couldnt handle losing a few hundred bucks on this team. $50 sure but $500 lol no thank you. maybe OGKUSH sees this and accepts!
I said 3 years - Why are you suddenly comparing 2013? Btw England's results in 2013 are far more impressive than the USA's anyway if you count friendlies. England haven't lost for 22 competitive matches.
You lost to Honduras and Costa Rica, the best team you beat was Mexico who are awful and every other teams you beat are lolbad.
In England's 22 games they beat + drew with Switzerland (Euro 2012 qualifying group - in which they were also unbeaten), drew with France, beat Ukraine + Sweden, drew with Italy (Euro 2012), went unbeaten in World Cup qualifying in a group that contains Ukraine + Poland (both are better than Mexico and are equal to or better than the USA).
England have looked unimpressive because of Roy Hodgson's management style - he likes to make teams hard to beat. He finally had England playing attacking football vs. Montenegro + Poland at last and England actually looked great for the first time in ages.
Kings of CONCACAF is not an achievement lol.
bro please be ****ing joking with me. Ukraine and ****ing Poland are not better than us. how the **** do you type something that stupid. And you think USA is better. you clearly dont even watch and just see the scores because you cannot be this ****ing dumb to disrespect Mexico like this.
just get out. go back to world cup qualifying thread and never post your thoughts about our region ever again.
There's just no evidence to suggest that Mexico is going to or even can beat NZ 4-0.
lol FIFA rankings and all, but it's all I can use to make this comparison. Jamaica, who are ranked 82nd in the world played Mexico twice this year for a combined loss of 1-0, including a 0-0 draw at Azteca. Also fwiw, they missed the sitter of all sitters which would have given them the lead in Mexico City.
New Zealand are ranked 79th. Like I said, lolfifarankings and who cares or whatever, but they're in the same ballpark as Jamaica. There's no reason to think NZ isn't capable of coming out of that ****hole of a country with a point.
welcome aboard AussieJack. i knew there was a reason why i always liked you.
also wAzZu, go ahead and bet then. lose your ****ing money. Mexico has a friendly vs Finland (hey MicroDumbass, is ****ing Finland better than us too?) in about 10 days and i give you my promise that you will see a much better team.
I did a massive analysis of this about a month ago and yeah, I knew that **** was coming. We are highly likely to be in the toughest group unless we draw the Swiss. Just because we're at another level from everybody else in our pod. And after Japan's performance in CONFED Cup I'm confident ranking us ahead of them though they do always bring the WIM to WC.
Doesn't seem fair to Japan and Costa Rica to say we're on another level from them. Costa Rica played great throughout the hex, including against us.
Mexico has a higher chance at being in group of death because nations actually respect us and they laugh at your national team. when people see Mexico as the 3rd best team of the group, that automatically wins the title of group of death. that won't happen if they see USA instead.
Newsflash: Noone has any respect for your WIMless national team.
I think you don't know what you're talking about. You are arguing as though this was the US team 20 years ago; taking ~80% of points from a team is a massive, massive advantage.
In my opinion, US would take >50% points from England. Because they are better.
But I guess all this will be decided come World Cup time, because I will load up on the USA, and let the chips fall where they may.
Name a single USA player that would be on the current national team of Spain, Brazil, Italy or Germany. That means he was to beat all the players already on the team.
I thought i'd throw together a quick guide to supporting New Zealand for those of you willing to jump on our bandwagon in the hopes of some epic lolMexico.
NZ is a small country in the south pacific, known for its sheep, dairy and hobbits. A population of a little over 4 million, we are most famous for the All Blacks, the world champion rugby team. In addition, we occaisionally rise to the top in other sports: back to back world champ and gold medalist shot putter Valerie Adams a recent noted example. Being an island nation, we also do well in triathlon, rowing and sailing (lol Team New Zealand, chokers).
Despite being in the weakest confederation, NZ has only qualified for the world cup twice (1982 and 2010), the second time after Australia moved out of Oceania and into Asia. In 1982 we lost 5-2 to Scotland, 3-0 to USSR and 4-0 to Brazil. We fared better in 2010, going unbeaten and finishing 3rd in our group ahead of Italy, after drawing our three games against Paraguay, Slovakia and Italoly. This is one of the sporting highlights of my life!
Our most famous player is Wynton Rufer, who won a Cup Winners Cup and a Bundesliga with Werder Bremen in the early 90s.
NZ is also somewhat infamous in footballing circles for a little while after our representative abstained from the vote between Germany and South Africa for the 2006 world cup after promising to vote for South Africa amidst rumours of massive bribes...
We were riding an unbeaten streak since early 2012 (a 2-3 defeat at the hands of powerhouse Jamaica) and included draws or victories against El Salvador, Honduras and China. Sadly, we were recently beaten by UAE, so hopefully we can turn it around.
Guidelines.
To support New Zealand, there are very few things that stand out. We are usually the underdogs, and this qualifier is no different (9/1 to qualify against Mehico). However, there are a few things worth noting:
1. Australia.
It is not enough to support New Zealand: one must also hate Australia and Australians. Cocky, arrogant, sore losers, bigoted: Australian sports people and their fans are amongst the most awful people on the planet. Remind them that their country is a giant open-air prison, that it is drying up from the inside out, that a dingo is stealing their baby... There is no middle ground here.
2. The Haka.
The haka is a traditional war dance performed by the Maori (native NZers), usually performed before battle to fire up the troops and intimidate the foe. Co-opted by sports teams and athletes when an adrenal rush is needed, there is a noted effect on how well the All Blacks play in the first five minutes after kickoff.
Also appropriate in celebration. Feel free to start intimidating Mexicans whereever you can find them on our behalf. The words and the actions are not fixed, what is important is aggression and conviction. Throat slitting gestures and tongue showing are crucial.
Ok, that's a good background. Hopefully I'll put together a team profile and highlight some of the matchups for the qualifier.