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12-08-2009 , 09:40 PM

#101

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Iverson hate is overblown in this forum imo. He's not the god that the public thinks he is, but he's not a piece of **** either.

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12-08-2009 , 09:49 PM

#102

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Yea, but who's the best pound for pound?

Earl Boykins?

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12-08-2009 , 09:57 PM

#103

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other than 04-05 when Kobe was hurt, was his worst year of the decade his rape year in 03-04?

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12-08-2009 , 10:11 PM

#104

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Any list that does not start with Duncan is just ignorant

Duncan
Kobe
KG
Shaq
LBJ
Dirk
Wade
Kidd
Nash
AI............. Not!

Some people have Nash ahead of Kidd which I think is pretty lol bad.

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12-08-2009 , 10:14 PM

#105

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Any list that does not start with Duncan is just ignorant

Duncan
Kobe
KG
Shaq
LBJ
Dirk
Wade
Kidd
Nash
AI............. Not!

Some people have Nash ahead of Kidd which I think is pretty lol bad.

heh, your list is identical to mind with the exception of the Nash/Kidd swap

I think Nash's peak was clearly better, and they've both been relevant the entire decade. I could see putting Kidd ahead, but don't see how putting either ahead would be lol bad.

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12-08-2009 , 10:17 PM

#106

Jack of Arcades

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

Iverson hate is overblown in this forum imo. He's not the god that the public thinks he is, but he's not a piece of **** either.

Allen Iverson was a good scorer who played like a legendary scorer. I don't think if T-Mac or Pierce or Vince took as many shots as AI did that they'd look much better. I have very little evidence for this.

A couple of them have seasons where they came close to AI's load and sometimes their efficiencies were a little better. So I might be wrong.

Once AI got to Denver, his efficiency was pretty good. I'm still not sure how much it helped his team, though.

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12-08-2009 , 10:23 PM

#107

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if you swap Nash/Kidd do the Mavs have a title? Does Nash still have 2 MVPs? Does Kidd have one?

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12-08-2009 , 10:24 PM

#108

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Not to mention he's never once committed a personal foul his entire career. According to him anyway.

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Oh good, yet another thread where casual fans try to argue that Allen Iverson is a top player, while statheads who live and breathe basketball all laugh at his ignorance. I guess its been a while....

And yet another thread where threadzilla regs act incredibly condescending, while spouting off recycled middlebrow observations.

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12-08-2009 , 10:26 PM

#109

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if you swap Nash/Kidd do the Mavs have a title? Does Nash still have 2 MVPs? Does Kidd have one?

no to all

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12-08-2009 , 10:31 PM

#110

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Ok maybe not lol bad but the difference between the two is clearly defense and it's a pretty big difference..... Kidd was down right nasty and well, Nash isn't going to win and awards..........

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12-08-2009 , 10:34 PM

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well, the difference between Nash and Kidd offensively is shooting and Nash is just a better scorer

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12-08-2009 , 10:40 PM

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well, the difference between Nash and Kidd offensively is shooting and Nash is just a better scorer

But in his prime Kidd was a really good defender, while Nash has always been pretty weak defensively.

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12-08-2009 , 10:40 PM

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sure no doubt Nash is a better scorer I personally would take Defense over offense everytime though......

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12-08-2009 , 10:42 PM

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But in his prime Kidd was a really good defender, while Nash has always been pretty weak defensively.

yea obv wouldn't argue this, I actually think Kidd was a great defender

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12-08-2009 , 10:44 PM

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sure no doubt Nash is a better scorer I personally would take Defense over offense everytime though......

Got any numbers to back this up?

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12-08-2009 , 10:45 PM

#116

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sure no doubt Nash is a better scorer I personally would take Defense over offense everytime though......

i don't think Kidd's defensive impact in a game can come even close to Nash's offensive impact in a game. Not that I'm saying Kidd is an offensive zero and Nash >>>> Kidd, just arguing against this particular point.

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12-08-2009 , 10:52 PM

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I tend to agree with those that say the Iverson hate has been overblown.

he's somewhere in-between:

inefficient cancer to his team

and

one of the best ever

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12-08-2009 , 11:07 PM

#118

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Everytime I think to myself that Iverson isn't that good, I try to think of a list of people who could have taken that Sixer's team to the finals and win game 1 in LA and I just can't think of very many.

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12-08-2009 , 11:09 PM

#119

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cbax who is your favorite team/player?`

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12-08-2009 , 11:10 PM

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There's a decent group of guys in the NBA right now who could have. The Eastern Conference was an embarrassment that year

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12-08-2009 , 11:16 PM

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And they weren't led by Iverson, they were led by defense.

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12-08-2009 , 11:21 PM

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Got any numbers to back this up?

uhhhh you mean raaaaggggzzz?

cuz neither one has one but......

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12-08-2009 , 11:22 PM

#123

TNBishop

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There's a decent group of guys in the NBA right now who could have. The Eastern Conference was an embarrassment that year

Yeah, arguably the top 5-6 teams every year in the early 00s were in the west. There was always talk about redoing the playoff brackets because it was so lopsided.

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12-08-2009 , 11:25 PM

#124

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ok so alot of iverson h8te

How about this:

Ill give anyone 1k on stars or ftp if....

they find out iversons PPG, APG, RPG and STL PG from 00-08 and...

find me one player in the history of the NBA has matched those numbers for 8 years of 1 decade

and you get 1k

Allen Iverson from 2000-2008

555 games
29.13 PPG
6.51 APG
3.66 RPG

Oscar Robertson 1960-68

604 games
30.31 PPG
10.60 APG
9.03 RPG

The best part, Iverson's eFG% over that time period = .449. Robertson eFG% over his 8 year period = .487 without a 3 point line.

Also, lol at measuring greatness by per game stats with no other context.

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12-08-2009 , 11:26 PM

#125

cbax9888

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Originally Posted by Artdogg

I tend to agree with those that say the Iverson hate has been overblown.

he's somewhere in-between:

inefficient cancer to his team

and

one of the best ever

I would agree with this, that is why i like him at #7 for overall best of decade

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