abusing prescription drugs and taking prescriptions pills you've been prescribed and having them interact badly are far different things. I doubt the people in your classes took their prescriptions as prescribed then drove and just got unlucky with the interactions or had their doctor overlook something when prescribing it.

So he can't even get a DUI successfully, dude is done

one girl claimed she had a prescription. she could have been lying.

If the probable cause report is at all accurate and his blood comes back with controlled substances in them, it should be a pretty easy conviction.

Of course, if he has legit prescriptions, I can't imagine he's going to get much in the way of a penalty other than a fine.

I mean, every time that I got pain pills for surgery or dental or whatever, there was a clear disclaimer on the bottle and the bag indicating not to operate heavy machinery or a car. not sure that it was illegal to do so, but it sure seems that it should be.

I'm not a lawyer like you, but this is what I am assuming too. He's just gonna bring his evidence from his doctor to court, say he wasn't warned correctly about the drug interactions and had no idea he wouldn't be able to safely drive and once he realized he couldn't drive safely he pulled over to the best of his ability.

You name it.

Bobby Kennedys daughter was acquitted by a jury in like an hour a couple years ago after she swerved off the road and slammed into a tractor trailer after taking a bunch of Ambien. Said it was a mistake, thought she took something else.

DWI on the basis of pills is a lot harder to prove than booze. Pretty tough to say you took a bunch of shots on accident, or had a legit medical reason to do that.

Also, the initial news report may not be inaccurate. I think most states, they give you a field portable breath test and then take you to the police station and have you blow into a much more accurate machine or take blood. You only get the refusal penalties if you refuse the latter, and the police will always ask you to take it even if they think you're driving on pills or weed or whatever. Finally, the statute is almost certainly still named DUI, probably just a different subsection for pills or whatnot. Which is all just to say, if he blew zeroes on the street, then decides not to blow again at the precinct, it is accurate to say he refused and was charged with dui.

my understanding is that you are allowed to refuse to blow at the scene, but if you refuse at the station there are repercussions.

Steve Kerr is so ****ed up from back surgeries that he can't sit on an NBA Bench. Can't see Tiger making it back to competitive golf after this many back surgeries.

people get dui for legally taking prescription meds "all the time"

take ambien, fall asleep, sleep walk, drive car, crash, get arrested, wake up not knowing how you got there

he will get convicted but a more understandable thing to most people than dui for alcohol

although he has money so could just go to trial, most people forced to plead

it could even end up being a "big" case for the laws around prescription meds and dui

The officer might not have even asked Tiger to blow as he had slam dunk probable cause to arrest him and have him blow at the station.

Clearly, he's past his prime and will likely never win another tourney again.

But people crapping on his 8 wins this decade are rating him on a different scale from other golfers. I believe that only Rory, Jordan, and Bubba have more than 8 wins in the 2010s.

man gus really loves tiger

Zero impact?

That picture ain't going away.

Amazing that people think that because it wasn't alcohol that it is no big deal. He failed field test. He thought he just played a golf tournament in Los Angeles.

Super dangerous to be on road for him or anyone else around him.

Yeah just look at Nick Nolte's career after that DUI I mean he never worked...[checks imdb]...uh never mind, looks like it didn't effect his career at all.

People didn't think it was a huge deal when they thought it was just alcohol. It wasn't! Now that it can be explained as a drug mixup it's even less of a big deal. Barely even a medium deal imo.

I don't know what you mean as career.

Tiger isn't an actor.

Now, he is taking and mixing serious medications presumably for pain so you can take it for its worth that he has a long road to recovery.

Legally, not much of an impact. He wasn't going to serve jail. Now, if he gets another one, trouble. Not sure if he will lose his license or have some restriction.

Legacy, TBD. That picture isn't good. This is more of the story of his slide.

Tiger is WDing from press conferences!

Brutal pain. And four of them no less. Where he is telling us he has never felt better and 48 hours later he is on the side of the road thinking he just came from a golf tournament in Los Angeles.

He needs meds to get through the pain. They will
crush his mental abilities though.

ok. You have the conditions set above:

-6 months (bet ends when either all of the below have been satisfied or 6 months elapses-I'll give you an extra 2 days so let's say bet expires at midnight at the end of November)

-more than a fine (obviously this will be satisfied if the below are)

-Court-ordered treatment program (some sort of mandatory, court ordered, rehab or classes will be attended by Tiger)

-No driving for a year (he will lose his driver's license for a period of at least a year)

-He will lose many endorsements (I'll count 3 or more as "many")

-He will make a public statement repudiating drinking (any official media release from Tiger Woods condemning drinking alcohol will suffice)

-Tour (although confidential) will suspend him but it won't matter because he isn't playing (I will allow him not playing any tournament in the next 6 months to satisfy this condition since, as you say, the Tour will keep quiet)

-The court appearance will be a media circus (I'll allow any reporting of the court appearance to count as a "media circus")


Let's bet $1,000. Do you have an escrow in mind? If not I would be happy to look for one or hold myself if you trust my reputation.

*See notes above.

It isn't just bad that TMZ blew it. Multiple media outlets ran with the refusal of breathalyzer, driving erratically, and smelling of alcohol. I didn't even read it from TMZ.

*Law enforcement sources tell TMZ … cops spotted Woods “driving erratically, all over the road” when they pulled him over. We’re told the officer smelled alcohol on Woods’ breath and at that point Woods became “arrogant.” We’re told the officer asked him to blow into a breathalyzer but he refused. In Florida that means automatic arrest and license suspension.*

*Gilbert Arenas Rips Tiger Woods' DUI Excuse, 'Just Say You Got F'd Up'
JUST SAY IT TMZSports.com

Gilbert Arenas isn't buying Tiger Woods' prescription pill DUI excuse -- telling TMZ Sports, "That's the suckiest sh*t about being an athlete, you gotta lie."

The ex-NBA superstar was leaving Catch in West Hollywood (he was a passenger) -- when he told us what Tiger should have said in his statement ... instead of blaming Rx medication.

"Just say you got drunk, you got f**ked up like everyone else in America," Arenas said.

"Mixed medication, really??*

If you want well founded factual analysis, Gilbert Arenas seems like a good place to start.

so basically you won't bet on anything you said as you believe he will keep his license and will not make a public statement against drinking which are two of the major points you had

you also aren't even sure about the endorsement claim either