Agreed, what might have worked for him 20 years ago is not going to work today.

His body isn’t going to let him play more, not unless the tour lets him go full Casey Martin. Even if they did I don’t think his ego would allow him to do it.

Right. I'm sure the problem here is he's just too lazy to get in the necessary practice rounds.

Tiger backdoored the cut.

Now post his result the last time he was +3 going into the 3rd round

I've never been a fan of Tiger, but man, watching him yesterday was just kinda painful. And I'm not talking about the scorecard.

Only silver lining is that we should now finally be done with all the absurd predictions of him coming back to win multiple tour events and maybe another major or two.

Why?

Because the people making those predictions are delusional.

ETA:

Did you not see his comments from last Wednesday? He is literally biding his time until he can join the PGA Champion Tour:

"I've got three more years before I get a little buggy out there and be out there with Fred (Couples). But until then, no buggy."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...e/11599317002/

(ETA: This has to be a major shock to all the OTHER delusional fans who were quite convinced Tiger would NEVER play the Senior circuit, since it was obviously beneath him.)

Those people have been right more than the people that have been claiming he was finished 3 back surgeries ago. Honestly the people that believe Tiger won't compete or win another major are delusional.

Tiger will still compete, and your chance of winning the main probably way higher than him winning another major.

He played toward the middle of the pack of the world's best players. Still amazing. Rory didn't. Tiger is not catching a break in the weather when he has been playing, getting nasty cold, rainy weather ... which is a huge factor for him now. I'm not as confident as I was that he will have pain free days when he is slinging the ball worry free, but he still definitely could.

Anybody see that weird stance he had from a fairway bunker on Friday, I think. One foot in trap, one foot out. Most all wait on right leg, left leg from knee kind of angled along the turf. Looked testy for him of course. I'll be dammed, when he followed thru off-balance he hopped three times on that right leg! Multiple fractures rodded up and he hopped in the bunker totally unnecessary, for it was the left leg coming down to regain balance and he should have bore the weight there. Instead he hops on the right leg in the cold rain.

He's not done.

What about John Daly?

The problem he had on the weekend was the weather and delays. I can only imagine how much Physio and possible injections he gets just to be able to play. With that early morning start I doubt he could get the treatment he needed

Hey when hes 50 he can use a cart on the senior tour

Phil Mickelson is 52 and just finished 2nd in the Masters.

Why do you think Tiger is doing this? He has enough money and could easily retire and just design golf courses and continue to grow his brand. It's because he knows he can win again.

He withdrew because of plantar fasciitis flair up. A treatable condition and his leg will continue to get stronger.

Ah yes, the amateur argument that if somebody else can do something at 52 then Tiger can do the same. I laugh every time I see it.

But let's see now, how many surgeries has Tiger had over the years? How many has Phil had? How many times has Tiger had to WD due to injury? How many has Phil?

But what non-golfers will never understand is the difference in swings between somebody like Tiger and somebody like Phil. Tiger's swing stresses his body tremendously and always has. So much so he had his first knee surgery as a teenager. Phil's swing is loose, long, and languid. It puts next to no stress on his body as far as golf swings go. No different than guys like Tom Watson and Vijay Singh. Guys with long, loose swings can compete so much longer that guys with the loaded quick twitch modern swing.

Look at the guys winning on the PGA Tour Champions, how many have swings that overly stress their body?

And the problem with Tiger isn't his swing per se, it's the fact that his body will always be betraying him going forward. At present, he can barely walk a course under optimal conditions. A course like Augusta is brutal for guys half his age to walk. Then throw in things like cold and rain and playing more than 18 holes in one day.

There's exactly one situation where Tiger would have even a shred of a chance of winning again.

1, a course he knows like the back of his hand
2, warm, dry weather for the entire week, not just the four tournament days
3, An early/late draw the first two days. This way he has almost 24 hours between rounds 1 and 2 and then if near the lead a later afternoon tee time on days 3 and 4.
4, no flare up of any injuries
5, he has to play his best

At least all those things have to happen for him to have a chance, and even if he does accomplish all that he could still get beaten by someone who simply plays better.

What is pretty impressive at present is that he can still hit it 300+ with a weak, wipe cut swing. There's more timing in that move than he would like, but it's what his body will allow.

And by the way, whatever happened to your statement that his Seal training would be able to carry him through anything? Didn't work out too well this week did it? But unfortunately, that's what will be happening all too often going forward.

I think Tiger will always be live at Augusta, always non zero so long as he can physically get around. Like Tom Watson at Turnberry in 2009. Yes it’s a very narrow set of circumstances like are listed above, but 2019 is an actual Major win long after Tiger’s best that happened.

I do struggle to see him competing at any other Major though.

Tiger's injury breakdown thing (pre-accident, his back, knee, achilles, plantar fasciitis) come not so much from his golf swing but from his insane workout and exercise regimen. Even when injured and showing signs of overuse injuires, he continued insane workouts designed for special forces. Oh, and in the army boots. See the caddie Williams book. I had the same combination of injuries, overuse syndromes, for the same reason as I aged: plantar, achilles, knee, back. All acute then chronically recurring. Far more to do with it than swinging a golf club. Tiger didn't even practice the long driving game near as much as many do and did. They are all overuse syndromes from exercise. Absolutely classic textbook presentation of it.

Who cares how many surgeries they had? Tiger still won a major after all of his surgeries and most likely would have won and/or contended in more the last 2 years if not for a car accident.


Tigers swing has always been evolving, he hasnt swing viciously at the golf ball for almost 2 decades and even after his latest back surgery he was still at the top for ball speed on tour.

Ah yes, the boomers take on long fluid swings. Tiger changed the game boomer. Athletes don't need long fluid swing for distance. Do you think Jon Rahm and Tony Finau will have short careers? Also Bernard Langer the most successful Sr player ever hardly has a long fluid swing.


Lol because Tiger changed the way the game was played and the players that came after him aren't on the Senior tour yet.

Lol he's just over 2 years after almost losing his leg. He's still healing and will continue to get stronger especially after the plantar fasciitis clears up. What's impressive is he's still making cuts on the hardest golf courses while still rehabbing a terrible injury while guys with long fluid swings miss the cuts.

A normal person would have retired by now. I stand by my statement that without his seal training at 48 years old he wouldn't be brutally rehabbing while grinding out cuts in majors trying to figure out how to get better.

Are we still using “Boomer” and “Karen” to denigrate people in arguments? It’s so boring.

Kinda like "amateur argument" and "non-golfers".

He was close getting his leg cut off. Running so good to be able to walk again.

Yup

Looks like Tiger is out for the rest of the 2023 majors. Ryder Cup maybe?

good explanation on his latest surgery: