You honestly think Rory -470 vs. an amateur is fair odds? Are you assuming the amateur is a scratch handicap? And on average how many strokes do you think Rory would beat a scratch from the same tees, same course.

I'm assuming he means an amateur that happened to find his way into the tournament

yes, to clarify i'm talking vs the amateurs already in the field

not some rando in the stands but one of the dozen guys playing today who you don't know the name of, amateur was perhaps the wrong word as maybe only 1/3 of them would qualify technically as amateurs

looking at the masters we had rahm>woods -265/195 in round 4

rahm>rory and tiger exceeded expectations at the masters giving more credibility to his appearance this week (a lot of the betting lines on tiger where whether he withdraws etc and he was a huge dog to make the cut) so this speaks volumes over how much the market has tanked on tiger since then how despite a better than expected perfromance last time his lines his odds are now way worse

as for some top pro vs amateur lines from the masters

here's some lines from r2

r2 Hagestad>Lyle -409/272
r2 Schwartzel>Shepherd -504/316
r2 MacIntyre>Sheherd -750/413
r2 Spaun>Olazabal -475/303
r2 Straka>Mize -1163/542
r2 KH Lee>Singh -291/209
r2 Palmer>Singh -281/204
r2 SW Kim>Jarvis -765/419
r2 Z Johnson>Jarvis -446/290
r2 Matsuyama>Piot -621/365

very similar to the Rory>Tiger line

narrator: the lamp post never got better

WTF?

First off, there are no amateurs in the field at the PGA this week. By definition, only pros are eligible to play in this event.

Let me point out a few things about these Masters odds.

r2 Hagestad>Lyle -409/272 (the reigning U.S. Mid Am champion favored over the 1988 Masters champion)
r2 Schwartzel>Shepherd -504/316
r2 MacIntyre>Sheherd -750/413
r2 Spaun>Olazabal -475/303 (both pros)
r2 Straka>Mize -1163/542 (both pros)
r2 KH Lee>Singh -291/209 (both pros)
r2 Palmer>Singh -281/204 (both pros)
r2 SW Kim>Jarvis -765/419
r2 Z Johnson>Jarvis -446/290
r2 Matsuyama>Piot -621/365

Lastly, everybody wants to bet on Tiger no matter what. The books know this and skew the line tremendously. Whatever odds you see are far worse than the true odds.

There are certainly lines to take advantage of out there, but they're going to be pros that the average viewer hasn't heard of. The average viewer has no clue that anybody with a PGA Tour card has a roughly 40% chance of beating Rory on any given day.

dude... that nittiest nitpickery i've ever seen

in fact, the market is no longer heavy on tiger, which is so puzzling, which was my entire point

last major he was a regular dog vs rahm and this time around he's a tremendous dog vs rory, if the public were betting him his line as they did in the past then it would resemble that of last major rather than mirror the line of an active pro in his 20s vs one who retired 20 years ago, zero chance the public is heavily betting him if the line is +273

but mostly, you know exactly what i was talking about all along, this is just pure bad faith "let's create an argument out of nothing" ****posting

and lol at calling men old enough to collect social security checks pros

No, I have no idea what you're talking about because you don't seem to know the difference between pros and amateurs.

A pro is a pro regardless of age. 68-year old Jay Haas just finished T14 at the PGA Tour Champions event in Atlanta.

And nitpickery might be pointing out that none of the four pros you're calling old enough to collect social security are 65 or older.

Wait one-leg is playing the PGA?? Not sure how I missed that. I just assumed he was not playing this. In for something that will happen...maybe missed cut.

For the record I was aware that there are no amateurs in the field this week. I was just trying to clarify Rick's post.

first shot of Tiger's I've had a chance to see so far this tourney was a beauty just now

I'm good luck

The dude can grind

No Ams but 20 dudes who would get crushed by the top 10 Ams

fmp

Tiger is jacked like a mofo

Well, Tiger has a 2 shot lead going to 18 so I'd say you nailed it.

Bubba gonna shoot 62 or 63??!

Good call, close.

Tiger is such an attention whore now. Yesterday at the end, when he's sucking can barely walk and says everything hurts. Today shoots 69. fo

i dont doubt he was in a ton of pain, hes just got enough drugs in his system to kill a 7 year old child.

Let's just hope he didn't drive himself back to the rented house after the round.

his gf has that GPS tracking technology on her phone, and yep. he apparently commandeered a vehicle and was located at the nearest Perkins

finishing his round as he did, you know his dinner and pie selection tasted better.

The dude is a beast, outplaying half the field as an old man on one leg

Yah, seems like this is the case.

I wanted to bet on him having a terrible round today, but the only line I can find at BetOnline is taking 107th ranked Adam Hadwin at -125 vs. Tiger. I would've expected Tiger to be like -200 in this matchup if all the slappies were pouring in money on him.

so... which reporter is going to be brave enough to ask the question to Tiger after his round?

Tiglahhhhh

Tiger is still beating one golfer!!! gg