Tebow haters are the most boring people ever

also, new page. Praise Tim.

Nobody thinks Tebow sucks more than me. And yet, nobody's enjoyed watching the last 3 games more than me either. Nobody else gives you the combo of loling and being inspired. It's crazy. I've been sucked in and I'm a fan.

tebow fanboys massively underrating the defense- the lions game proves that if the defense doesnt play well/great to keep them in it then tebow WIM is kinda moot

im loving these wins but lets face it, we dont have a super elite D we cant count on them to keep us in it every single game- tebow/offense simply has to perform better

tebow haters massively underrating tebows effect on the run game and tebows WIM- im too lazy to go search but what do ppl think about the skillz of willis mcgahee and the other bronco running backs? werent ppl hating on mcgahee like 3 years ago lol. tebow does a ton for the running game, if he can develop any semblance of pocket passing ability gg league

also our WR's were terrible today, 2-3 huge drops which would have made tebow's pure passing stats look much much better

one other pro-tebow thing is that with how much we run and how safe our pass plays are we don't turn the ball over very much so as long as theyre not completely non existent (lions game) well always be doing pretty well in the field position battle and won't be giving their offense a short field very often which is pretty huge and helpful to our D

ok, i realize we don't have a lot of data points to go off of...6 games this season. however, this isn't poker where we can play 1m hands and basically nail down what our winrate is...therefore, we have to evaluate what we think based on other things. you think that orton gives the broncos a "way" better chance to win and i think tebow does. orton was 1-4, tebow is 5-1...small sample, but take it for what it is. also note that tebow beat 2 of the same teams ON THE ROAD that orton lost to AT HOME. orton had many more turnovers in fewer games than tebow. for his career, orton turns the ball over much more often than tebow has so far in his short career. orton's 2011 and career QBR is lower than tebow's. Denver non-qb rushing averaged 90.8 yd/gm under orton. under tebow, non-qb rushing averages almost 140. that is a product of them not just rushing more, but tebow's running ability affecting defenses. also realize after denver benched orton, they basically were giving up, traded brandon marshall and were calling it quits...imagine what they could do if they actually put together a roster to play around tebow if he can win this many games with a decent RB in mcgahee and no-name receivers. at some point, once the coin has landed heads 55 times in a row, you have to take a step back and not cry "results oriented." then it hits you, it's not 50/50, you're flippin coins w/ the teddy the iceman monroe up in a bellagio suite.

tebow being able to hit the side of a house with the football would help his passing numbers as well

why is the word potentially still in the title

AJ,

For the record when I said that he may impact the game in ways we don't understand I was not referring to intangibles in the traditional sense (leadership, WIM, etc).

I was simply saying we probably don't understand just how much impact he has on running back lanes, defensive schemes, TOP, field position, his own defense, etc. The things he does is different and has different impacts.

Also, for the common narrative of it will never last long term because the QB will die.. Rivers took a lot more serious hits standing in the pocket than Tebow did running.

lol at arguing with AJ THA KID.

you dont think the improved defense has anything to do with tebow and is just an early christmas miracle?

The raiders game is more of an anomaly than the lions game. If you can't see why, I can't help you and may Tebow have mercy on your soul.

While both are most likely true, Denver is far more likely to give up 45 points than score 38.

For me?

Roughly two seasons.

This is basically me.

I'm not a fan of tebow too much because of his faith and what his faith represents with a person like me, but you can't say that watching him play and his speeches don't make you inspired.

This sums it up for me as well.

The main reason the tebow "haters" get so "mad", imo, is because of how illogical the tebow fanbois (pronounced just like tebow says it) are.

They want to put him in the HOF after 6 games. If you dare question his ability to be a QB in the NFL long term you're branded a hater who just hates god.

There's little objectivity on either side, but the pro-tebow crowd is far worse.

Yes, denver is winning games because denver's defense is really good. But tebow has what.. 2 turnovers? Last I checked, not turning the ball over helps to win the game. How many turnovers do you think Orton would have? I think a lot more than 2. Hell, Orton is quite capable of throwing 2 INT's in 1 game.

I was going to say Tebow gives them more ToP, but he really doesn't.

How many times will this be repeated without mentioning the number of throwing attempts Teblow has?

It's **** like this fanbois...

??? Okay lOK, then how about the # of fumbles he has to rushing attempts?

According to the guy who runs SmartFootball, the Chargers solved the Broncos option by scraping the LB and having the DE always go for the RB. This is why Tebow had so many more rushes this week.

An explanation of scraping:

http://smartfootball.com/defending-s...crape-exchange

Apparently though, the Broncos never adjusted (by reading the DT instead of the DE). It's not just opponents who aren't used to running the option, it's the Broncos also.

you dont think theres value in being able to run an offensive scheme which minimizes turnovers?

Show me where people are seriously saying anything close to this ITT>

“I told everyone I was going to [do the Tebow] late in overtime, I knew Tebow was going to win for us,” Carter said. “Philip Rivers gave me a little look when I did it, but that’s OK. … I wanted to celebrate for our quarterback. We’re riding with him and he’s riding with us. Who cares about his throwing motion or a hitch or whatever. We are winning with him.”

Really says it all

1 turnover out of 240 touches as of the middle of last night, which is absolutely unheard of for a QB (average is about 1 TO per 50 touches).

It's clear that Tebow is an awful passer who has value in other ways in the QB position. The point people make that opposing are unused to the option is missing the point - it is exactly that those teams aren't ready for the option offense, and the Denver D is becoming legitimately very very good with a sick season from Von Miller (omg what a sick badass name).

99% of pro-tebow crowd's activity is enjoying the ride and spamming TEBOW. On the other side are the haters who furiously try to convince everyone that Tebow is a terrible player.


someone's not getting it