Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Sporting Events Discussion centered around sporting events.

View Poll Results: What will be the outcome of the game?
Falcons win; over 37 32.17%
Falcons win; under 15 13.04%
Pats win, don't cover; over 3 2.61%
Pats win, don't cover; under 7 6.09%
Pats cover; over 20 17.39%
Pats cover; under 33 28.70%
Voters: 115. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-03-2017, 02:29 PM   #376
DisGunBGud
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
DisGunBGud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: GENIE LAND
Posts: 23,710
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prawney View Post
Lol haters. GOAT coach and qb going for #5. Everyone should be rooting for the pats so they can tell their kids about how they witnessed greatness.
Can it really be considered hating when your teams track record precedes itself? I don't consider myself a hater, I respect what the Pats do but those who don't like them have some very valid reasons. That isn't hating.

I'm looking forward to how much run BB is going to give Blount since Lewis is lurking as a potential matchup nightmare the same way Coleman is for Atlanta. Whichever one of those guys can provide the biggest play for their team might just be the difference.
DisGunBGud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 02:39 PM   #377
Kneel B4 Zod
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Kneel B4 Zod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 27,952
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JMurder3 View Post
I think the compatibility of teams strengths & weaknesses can definitely be a thing...

Taking extreme examples:

One team is worst in the league against TEs & can't figure out how to cover them, but their opponent literally never throws to their TE, so it's cool. What is a huge problem against many teams, it's not a problem at all.
I think these things would largely just cancel each other out though. I imagine the worst passing offense in the league would be able to put up an average-ish day against the worst passing defense in the league. what normally is a huge negative for both teams ends up being neutral for both of them.
Kneel B4 Zod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 02:43 PM   #378
RichGangi
Laughable false & highly douchey
 
RichGangi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Unearned income my a$$!
Posts: 9,539
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CalledDownLight View Post
Not sure what this game has to do with witnessing the GOAT QB since Peyton actually retired after last year's SB. I do imagine most of us watched that though so we can still tell our kids about it.
RichGangi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 02:47 PM   #379
Kneel B4 Zod
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Kneel B4 Zod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 27,952
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DisGunBGud View Post
Can it really be considered hating when your teams track record precedes itself? I don't consider myself a hater, I respect what the Pats do but those who don't like them have some very valid reasons. That isn't hating.

I'm looking forward to how much run BB is going to give Blount since Lewis is lurking as a potential matchup nightmare the same way Coleman is for Atlanta. Whichever one of those guys can provide the biggest play for their team might just be the difference.
I think Lewis will get the most touches. he is a matchup nightmare for most teams. Pats have actually never lost a game with him.
Kneel B4 Zod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 02:56 PM   #380
diskoteque
Joey Local
 
diskoteque's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 30,421
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

I would like over 2.5 receptions for Dion Lewis if anyone wants the under. Please PM or post here.
diskoteque is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 03:13 PM   #381
Onlydo2days
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 16,691
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod View Post
I think these things would largely just cancel each other out though. I imagine the worst passing offense in the league would be able to put up an average-ish day against the worst passing defense in the league. what normally is a huge negative for both teams ends up being neutral for both of them.
It depends. I think your 90/10 is probably too extreme, like 75/25 might be more like it.

I think a big "matchup" thing involves shutdown CB's. Like if you've got prime Darrelle Revis but you are in the superbowl vs a team thats led in yards by Jermaine Kearse, it isn't as nice of a luxury to have him as it would be if you were playing a team that got so much of its offense from 1 receiver like Calvin Johnson or Julio Jones.

Some matchups shutdown CB's can be much more valuable than others.
Onlydo2days is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 03:22 PM   #382
72off
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
72off's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: WATZ POPPIIN!!
Posts: 62,115
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

72off is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 03:57 PM   #383
Onlydo2days
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 16,691
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Does anyone know the extent of Bill Belichick's role with the '96 Pats team or where I could read about it? Couldn't really find much.

I know he was assistant HC and DB's coach in job title but it doesn't say much more than that.
Onlydo2days is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 03:59 PM   #384
ZeckoRiver
Pooh-Bah
 
ZeckoRiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Check raising stupid tourists
Posts: 5,592
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

pats by 14
ZeckoRiver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 04:20 PM   #385
DisGunBGud
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
DisGunBGud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: GENIE LAND
Posts: 23,710
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

75% of money on Pats
DisGunBGud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 04:45 PM   #386
deleted acct
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

My gut tells me that playoff experience will come into play here and Atlanta is going to choke. My gut has been wrong for the last million superbowls. Take it into consideration!

Also, you guys really expect Goodell and Vegas to lose? GL.

(money is still on pats lol)
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 06:00 PM   #387
youtalkfunny
dumbest smart person his mom knows
 
youtalkfunny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: I can't believe it, either!
Posts: 21,758
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by hair loss at 19_ View Post
I just browsed his article. I want my 30 seconds back
The weekly Jambaroo column, with the bits about exotic cheap beers and other crap, would not be the way I'd introduce someone to Magary. Especially this week's, which opened about him crying over Trump. Not a typical entry.

But I get excited when I see he's posted something, the way I used to get excited about opening a Simmons piece 15 years ago.
youtalkfunny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 06:10 PM   #388
JMurder3
not god, probably jebus
 
JMurder3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: In ya 4L, LLSNL, TWSS & POG.
Posts: 51,765
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Out of the 100 employees ESPN had give predictions for the Super Bowl, 72 picked the Patriots to win.

Barnwell's 17 point margin was by far the biggest projected difference (Matt Bowen was 2nd with a 12 point margin).

Not a lot of people out on limbs...except maybe Steve Levy who predicted a 14-10 Patriots win.

Trey Wingo had the largest Falcons prediction, 27-17.
JMurder3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 06:31 PM   #389
Onlydo2days
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 16,691
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Well **** Trey Wingo and anyone who is down with him

https://theringer.com/super-bowl-nfl...9bb#.o2pb8wrpl

Robert Mays

Last edited by Onlydo2days; 02-03-2017 at 06:47 PM.
Onlydo2days is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 08:02 PM   #390
Prawney
Pooh-Bah
 
Prawney's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 5,648
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CalledDownLight View Post
Not sure what this game has to do with witnessing the GOAT QB since Peyton actually retired after last year's SB. I do imagine most of us watched that though so we can still tell our kids about it.
This reminds me of the story about the Japanese soldier that hid out for off the grid for like 3 decades refusing to surrender after WW2.
Prawney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 08:15 PM   #391
bazooka87
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
bazooka87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mickmacking
Posts: 20,538
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rafiki View Post
Anyone have a decent prop sheet? Every year this site helps me enhance mine. Always so appreciated.
Think this is the go to prop sheet
bazooka87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 09:00 PM   #392
JinX11
veteran
 
JinX11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 2,882
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Grunching. Heard this on the radio coming home and haven't fact-checked any of it.

Patriots are -0.5 in the 1st quarter. Apparently, in the their past 6 Super Bowls, they have a combined 0 points in first quarters.

Given how fast the Falcons start, this feels like the free-est money ever.
JinX11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 09:54 PM   #393
DisGunBGud
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
DisGunBGud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: GENIE LAND
Posts: 23,710
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JinX11 View Post
Grunching. Heard this on the radio coming home and haven't fact-checked any of it.

Patriots are -0.5 in the 1st quarter. Apparently, in the their past 6 Super Bowls, they have a combined 0 points in first quarters.

Given how fast the Falcons start, this feels like the free-est money ever.
It's a true stat and in their only other SB appearance only a fg in the first. Pretty wild.
DisGunBGud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2017, 11:38 PM   #394
rafiki
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
rafiki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 37,781
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bazooka87 View Post
You are a ****ing prince!
rafiki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2017, 12:55 AM   #395
Ineedaride2
Politics Court Jester
 
Ineedaride2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Warning: This post contains sarcasm
Posts: 25,084
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichGangi View Post
I don't know one Pats fan with a brain who thinks they're def going to win. Seeing lots of ATL fans thinking they're a lock tho....

All I know is I wouldn't bet against the GOATS.

Should be a good game either way.
Nobody in the world with a brain should consider anybody a lock. There's no such thing at this point in the game.

I've got the falcons at 40% to win, which incidentally lines up pretty well with the percentage of people betting on New England last I checked.
Ineedaride2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2017, 01:02 AM   #396
Ineedaride2
Politics Court Jester
 
Ineedaride2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Warning: This post contains sarcasm
Posts: 25,084
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley View Post
It is pretty amazing how the past ~6 years, everyone **** on Matt Ryan saying he was horrible, never be a good QB, etc. and now everyone is saying he's the best ever just because they don't want to see Tom Brady win another.

Turns out all Matt Ryan needed was 5 great WRs to get everyone on his band wagon.
Here's a question I asked at work this week:

How good would Brady be if he had started with the Falcons system and stayed there? How much better than Ryan would he be? I really have no idea. My uneducated opinion is he's a great quarterback that has been taken to another level by the team he's with. I suck at evaluating quarterbacks in a vacuum.
Ineedaride2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2017, 01:10 AM   #397
Prawney
Pooh-Bah
 
Prawney's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 5,648
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Im the guy with no brain that thinks Pats are a lock. I respect Falcons offense but they are playing against a D that can atleast put up a fight. Pats Offense is legit good too and they are playing a D that has no shot at stopping them.

Falcons need to play perfect on offense and catch some breaks on D to be in with a shot of winning. The likely scenario for this game is Pats go up early and Falcons start to fall apart.

The Boo Hoo Falcons Crew can ***** and moan about this prediction but we all know its more probable than not.
Prawney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2017, 01:15 AM   #398
RV Life
old hand
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,935
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ineedaride2 View Post
Nobody in the world with a brain should consider anybody a lock. There's no such thing at this point in the game.

I've got the falcons at 40% to win, which incidentally lines up pretty well with the percentage of people betting on New England last I checked.
Yea there's no such thing as a lock. This Falcons team is better than the Giants team that beat the Pats when they were 16-0 and that team is better than the current Pats team.

Personally I think the Falcons aren't getting enough credit. Seems like their lack of experience is the "reason" they can't win. Bull****. They can win.
RV Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2017, 01:20 AM   #399
Ineedaride2
Politics Court Jester
 
Ineedaride2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Warning: This post contains sarcasm
Posts: 25,084
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prawney View Post
Lol haters. GOAT coach and qb going for #5. Everyone should be rooting for the pats so they can tell their kids about how they witnessed greatness.
You're really really.........really making me want to go all out fan-boy.

But I won't.
Ineedaride2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2017, 01:23 AM   #400
Ineedaride2
Politics Court Jester
 
Ineedaride2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Warning: This post contains sarcasm
Posts: 25,084
Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prawney View Post
Im the guy with no brain that thinks Pats are a lock. I respect Falcons offense but they are playing against a D that can atleast put up a fight. Pats Offense is legit good too and they are playing a D that has no shot at stopping them.

Falcons need to play perfect on offense and catch some breaks on D to be in with a shot of winning. The likely scenario for this game is Pats go up early and Falcons start to fall apart.

The Boo Hoo Falcons Crew can ***** and moan about this prediction but we all know its more probable than not.
Lock means 0% chance. I mean, in case you weren't sure about the terminology. It's a lock that you weren't sure.

See how that works?
Ineedaride2 is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2020, Two Plus Two Interactive