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View Poll Results: What will be the outcome of the game?
Falcons win; over 37 32.17%
Falcons win; under 15 13.04%
Pats win, don't cover; over 3 2.61%
Pats win, don't cover; under 7 6.09%
Pats cover; over 20 17.39%
Pats cover; under 33 28.70%
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:15 AM   #3326
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Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

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I think there are like 15 Falcons fans that don't live in GA.
There are some left overs in the Carolinas and north FLA from the pre panther days . Collage football is still boss in that part of the country .
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:27 AM   #3327
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Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

As a Pats fan I have one lines to draw.

to the YOU CAN NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TYREE CATCH AGAIN NOW:

Fine, I don't feel the need to now, and probably won't again at any point. So we won't.

BUT, the tyree catch was on basically a 4th down hail mary (4th and 23, right?) in complete desperation.

The Edelman catch was on first ****ing down. If he drops it like he would 99% you think we wouldn't have gotten that first down? Atlanta's D was exhausted and TB was rolling (besides throwing that ball short, I guess)

IN CONCLUSION I, and all other Pats fans, will agree to never complain about the Tyree catch again, under the condition that you all agree to agree that the 18-1 2007 Pats team was/is the best football constructed/executed football team of all time. We were!

Yeah, we lost the SB. Some freaky **** happened. It happens. But no team ever was better than them. Those are the terms.
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:28 AM   #3328
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Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Plus the Kearse catch thing which turns the last one into the ~miracle Butler INT lucky narrative~, into yeah they stopped em around the 50 i guess they deserved it
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:30 AM   #3329
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Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

Tyree catch was 3rd down iirc.
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:32 AM   #3330
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Tyree catch was on 3rd and 5

Samuel dropped INT on 2nd and 5

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Old 02-07-2017, 12:32 AM   #3331
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It was also like 3rd and 5

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Old 02-07-2017, 12:36 AM   #3332
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IN CONCLUSION I, and all other Pats fans, will agree to never complain about the Tyree catch again, under the condition that you all agree to agree that the 18-1 2007 Pats team was/is the best football constructed/executed football team of all time. We were!

Yeah, we lost the SB. Some freaky **** happened. It happens. But no team ever was better than them. Those are the terms.
Your terms are rejected
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:38 AM   #3333
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Tyree catch was 3rd down iirc.
It was. Also don't forget Asante Samuel had two hands on an EASY INT the play before and dropped it.


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Old 02-07-2017, 12:39 AM   #3334
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It's the system. Most of Brady's throws are thrown under ten yards from the line of scrimmage. He very often just picks teams apart underneath with the short passing game/run game. If they have their usual two big TEs out there they are matchup hell for opposing defenses. Gronk is able to stretch the field and the Patriots have had some deep threats in the past, Moss obviously the best one, but overall they've mostly relied on their short game offense to win their games. It's very efficient. Just look at Brady's completion percentages and TD/int ratio in recent years. Sure some of that is on him being a great QB but alot of that also has to do with the system that he's in.

Yes, yes of course the system is a big factor as it was for Montana and Young under Walsh.
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:42 AM   #3335
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Re: SUPER BOWL LI: GOOD (+3) vs. EVIL (o/u 58)

I mean only a Pats fan could somehow go from the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history to begging for acknowledgement of the greatness of a team of chokers a decade ago. Sad!
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:44 AM   #3336
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Ok so my twitter sources were in fact unreliable. I still think the terms are reasonable.
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:45 AM   #3337
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:47 AM   #3338
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I mean only a Pats fan could somehow go from the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history to begging for acknowledgement of the greatness of a team of chokers a decade ago. Sad!
this is an absolutely fine take I am ok with.

Why the **** did they throw that far on 3rd and 5 tho? Whatever works. Thank god Tom Coughlin's retired.
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:48 AM   #3339
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As someone who grew up during the terrible SB era where like 1 in 5 was any good - we should all be thankful for this run. The good Superbowls started with what - the Rams/Titans?
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Why the **** did they throw that far on 3rd and 5 tho?
Is this guy serious?
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:49 AM   #3341
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One thing I found interesting was that Ryan was the only Falcon to go out for the OT Coin Toss.

Can you imagine the takes that would have spewed out if that were Cam Newton who went out there by himself?

I took that as well as part of the Falcon meltdown. Here you have probably the most shook player in the history of the NFL, and you send him out alone against a pack of predator wolves drooling over his weakness at the moment. It was bad strategy and it was part of the meltdown. No regrouping. Just "devour us, wolves." That's how that moment hit me.
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As someone who grew up during the terrible SB era where like 1 in 8 was any good - we should all be thankful for this run. The good Superbowls started with what - the Rams/Titans?
Broncos/Packers 2 years before. Then it alternated between good and bad until Pats/Panthers. And mostly been good since besides a few.
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Is this guy serious?
Oh no, not at all.
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I took that as well as part of the Falcon meltdown. Here you have probably the most shook player in the history of the NFL, and you send him out alone against a pack of predator wolves drooling over his weakness at the moment. It was bad strategy and it was part of the meltdown. No regrouping. Just "devour us, wolves." That's how that moment hit me.
Slater had been terrible on coin toss calls all year. When he saw Ryan by himself, he knew it was a wrap.
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As a Pats fan I have one lines to draw.

to the YOU CAN NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TYREE CATCH AGAIN NOW:

Fine, I don't feel the need to now, and probably won't again at any point. So we won't.

BUT, the tyree catch was on basically a 4th down hailmary (4th and 23, right?) in complete desperation.

The Edelman catch was on first ****ing down. If he drops it like he would 99% you think we wouldn't have gotten that first down? Atlanta's D was exhausted and TB was rolling (besides throwing that ball short, I guess)

IN CONCLUSION I, and all other Pats fans, will agree to never complain about the Tyree catch again, under the condition that you all agree to agree that the 18-1 2007 Pats team was/is the best football constructed/executed football team of all time. We were!

Yeah, we lost the SB. Some freaky **** happened. It happens. But no team ever was better than them. Those are the terms.
See what type of nonsense we will have to live through? There is no God
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:52 AM   #3346
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Pats fans,

So if you could go back and some how give those 18-1 pats the win over the giants, but you would have to give back other superbowl wins, how many and which ones would you give back.

I'm not a pats fan, but I think giving up any two others to win that game is a no-brainer. So, I guess the question is would you give up 3 or more. If so, which ones.
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:59 AM   #3347
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I'd def give up this one. Falcons are a fun/good team full of guys i like. And then just don't call the tuck rule on the first one? The second two nooo ****ing way. We were the best teams those years. So Brady/Belichik get 4 with the B2B, the seahawks one, and the perfect season. That's still goat and we have the only modern perfect season.

3 would be really hard. Idk. 3 Ships isn't prestigious as much historically, but perfect season would be a bonus. I don't think I'd do it
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Old 02-07-2017, 01:02 AM   #3348
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Once Randy Moss is in the HOF this will all be much easier for me
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Pats fans,

So if you could go back and some how give those 18-1 pats the win over the giants, but you would have to give back other superbowl wins, how many and which ones would you give back.

I'm not a pats fan, but I think giving up any two others to win that game is a no-brainer. So, I guess the question is would you give up 3 or more. If so, which ones.
Wouldn't give two from first one, Seahawks one or this one.

Id say would give up 03 and 04 for 07.

Not a chance at giving up three. That's just insane.
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As a Pats fan I have one lines to draw.

to the YOU CAN NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TYREE CATCH AGAIN NOW:

Fine, I don't feel the need to now, and probably won't again at any point. So we won't.

BUT, the tyree catch was on basically a 4th down hail mary (4th and 23, right?) in complete desperation.

The Edelman catch was on first ****ing down. If he drops it like he would 99% you think we wouldn't have gotten that first down? Atlanta's D was exhausted and TB was rolling (besides throwing that ball short, I guess)

IN CONCLUSION I, and all other Pats fans, will agree to never complain about the Tyree catch again, under the condition that you all agree to agree that the 18-1 2007 Pats team was/is the best football constructed/executed football team of all time. We were!

Yeah, we lost the SB. Some freaky **** happened. It happens. But no team ever was better than them. Those are the terms.
Dude please stop. No one is arguing that this catch was as important as Tyree catch. But it was pretty damn lucky and still a big play.
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