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Super Bowl 58: #3 Kansas City Chiefs vs #1 San Francisco 49ers (-1) Super Bowl 58: #3 Kansas City Chiefs vs #1 San Francisco 49ers (-1)
View Poll Results: Who is winning?
Kansas City Chiefs
21 56.76%
San Francisco 49ers
16 43.24%

02-12-2024 , 08:28 PM
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02-12-2024 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99


Ooof
Shoutout o-line
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02-12-2024 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bottomset
To get a better QB you'd have to cut 40M+ of salary from the rest of the roster, he's not Mahomes, but it's Purdy plus 50M worth of talent vs Mahomes not just a straight h2h comparison

rookie deal QB is by far the best cheat code in the NFL, it takes the Goat peak QB to offset it and it was razor close
Ya I mean I realize this isn’t how it works but I take the 9ers side over the chefs for yesterday 10 times out of 10

50 million dollar QBs don’t work unless you have the literal GOAT. And even in that scenario the Chefs struggled hard to win this title. They won it, sure, but this was a ****ing sight to behold to get there. Purdy’s talent relative to the dollar cost and the additional talent it affords the 9ers is as valuable as mahomes at his current price
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02-12-2024 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
lol romo and all, but **** jim nantz. and “First and goal, Mahomes flings it! It’s there! Hardman! Jackpot! Kansas City!” is a lol incomprehensible nothing of a call anyway
Joe Buck with the helmet catch says "hold my beer!"
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02-12-2024 , 09:14 PM
If 1 team is paying their QB 1-2M and the other is paying it 50M, seems like the former should have the better defense. And based on the last month or so, they really didn't.

The Chiefs definitely won the luck rankings/variance side of the game yesterday, but after watching the game I'd still take them to win > 50% vs 9ers (my pregame opinion)

best QB/big QB gap + better pass D is a lot to overcome in modern NFL.

Last edited by Onlydo2days; 02-12-2024 at 09:22 PM.
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02-12-2024 , 09:21 PM


This was by no means anything special, but a thousand times better than nantz and romo

Edit: ****ing nfl embedding rules
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02-12-2024 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Ya I mean I realize this isn’t how it works but I take the 9ers side over the chefs for yesterday 10 times out of 10
Before yesterday I thought 49ers should be favored. After a game where it felt like all the small stuff went in SFs favor (ball placement, soft penalties,..) I'm pretty sure if they played again next Sunday it would be a pick'em.
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02-12-2024 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Yahtzee!
the bulls! down 1! jordan! drives right! on russell! who slips! he flings! the ball! swisherooni! the windy city! deep dish! oprah! bazinga!
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02-12-2024 , 10:00 PM
do you believe in hot dog carts? Yes!
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02-13-2024 , 12:16 AM
Players in virtually all sports are notoriously sketchy on the technical rules. No surprise here. When something different/anomalous comes up, Tiger Woods doesn't know half the rules of golf and how they apply to the situation. A new OT format shouldn't fall into that category, but it apparently does and it's just more of the same. Coaches are somewhat of a different story, but often far from thorough, and certainly not encyclopedic about it. Also as the OT rules evolved, all the attention was paid to the sudden death/guaranteed possession changing aspect, not all the other details. Only officials basically have anything approaching 99% command of the rule book. So, it's just more of the same. "We are just doing what we do, playing our position, not studying the rule book." Same as it ever was.

Last edited by FellaGaga-52; 02-13-2024 at 12:22 AM.
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02-13-2024 , 12:50 AM
TV numbers are in. 123.4 million viewers, 8 million more than last year. If TS wasn't a billionaire already she should ask Goodell for a check.

https://deadline.com/2024/02/super-b...hip-1235822973
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02-13-2024 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
50 million dollar QBs don’t work unless you have the literal GOAT.
And annihilate the draft, which I keep telling you guys, but you're all like "lol no Veach sux, it's all Mahomes". SMH
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02-13-2024 , 01:01 AM
Nobody said Veach sucks. Don't be the Chiefs version of that 88 guy.
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02-13-2024 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
TV numbers are in. 123.4 million viewers, 8 million more than last year. If TS wasn't a billionaire already she should ask Goodell for a check.

https://deadline.com/2024/02/super-b...hip-1235822973
Assuming a decent chunk of those 7-year-old girls stay fans of the NFL (and a lot of female fans I know got into the NFL about that age to bond with their mom and/or dad), how much has Taylor raised the value of every owner's franchise? I bet it's not insignificant.


Last edited by suzzer99; 02-13-2024 at 01:29 AM.
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02-13-2024 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Nobody said Veach sucks. Don't be the Chiefs version of that 88 guy.
Obviously I'm being tongue in cheek. But I did recently have to argue that no one in KC would have wanted to fire Veach if the Chiefs lost to the Dolphins.

I don't think Veach or the last 4 years of Chiefs drafts get enough credit because the Mahomes = Jordan narrative crowds everything else out. It's incredibly hard to build a top 2 defense (youngest defense in NFL) picking 30th-ish in the draft every year.
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02-13-2024 , 01:06 AM
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02-13-2024 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Assuming a decent chunk of those 7-year-old girls stay fans of the NFL (and a lot of female fans I know got into the NFL about that age to bond with their mom and/or dad), how much has Taylor raised the value of every owner's franchise? I bet it's not insignificant.

I thought it was an amazing game and am proud to be from the kansas city area. That combined with recent legislation in kansas that made sports betting go from completely illegal to highly legal make me want to learn football betting.
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02-13-2024 , 07:49 AM
We all heard Alicia Keys voice crack when she first started singing, but the video on NFL's site sounds more like the studio version.

Can't trust anything these days.
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02-13-2024 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
TV numbers are in. 123.4 million viewers, 8 million more than last year. If TS wasn't a billionaire already she should ask Goodell for a check.

https://deadline.com/2024/02/super-b...hip-1235822973
This is a deceptive number. The real number is Share and Rating which Nielsen has not released.

Also, I know this will come as a shock but Nielsen is fudging the numbers

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Some of the increase can be attributed to a change in the way viewers are counted. Nielsen began including out-of-home viewers in its ratings in 2020, but only from limited markets. That measurement expanded to all 50 states beginning this year.
Also, these numbers that were published were only a 7% increase. Doesn't TayTay have something like 250 million followers on Instagram alone? So with the Nielsen numbers fudging maybe about 4% of her fans watched?
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02-13-2024 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by esad
Doesn't TayTay have something like 250 million followers on Instagram alone? So with the Nielsen numbers fudging maybe about 4% of her fans watched?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venn_diagram
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02-13-2024 , 02:00 PM
How does Nielsen calculate Super Bowl parties?
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02-13-2024 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
How does Nielsen calculate Super Bowl parties?
Nielsen households will report it.

https://panels.nielsen.com/panels-and-surveys/

(I used to work in the TV Ad space. Not for Nielsen)
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02-13-2024 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by esad
This is a deceptive number. The real number is Share and Rating which Nielsen has not released.

Also, I know this will come as a shock but Nielsen is fudging the numbers



Also, these numbers that were published were only a 7% increase. Doesn't TayTay have something like 250 million followers on Instagram alone? So with the Nielsen numbers fudging maybe about 4% of her fans watched?

The real answer is Taylor Swift didn't do much for SB ratings because so many people who don't watch a second of football all year watch the game.

I would think every SB would basically do better than the last. Just more people existing. It also helps the games have all been close so that helps casuals stay watching since they end up enjoying it.
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02-13-2024 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
We all heard Alicia Keys voice crack when she first started singing, but the video on NFL's site sounds more like the studio version.

Can't trust anything these days.
I thought they recorded these performances a few days prior to the actual show and then just lip sync at the SB. I wasn't paying attention to the performance but you would think they would just rerecord if that's the case.
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02-13-2024 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GusJohnsonGOAT
I would think every SB would basically do better than the last.
Here are the viewership numbers since 2011. Main broadcast only (these days there's also the Spanish broadcast + streaming).


Ratings keep falling but way slower than for everything else on linear TV.

For comparison, the 2011 World Series averaged 16.5mil viewers per game. The 2023 World Series averaged 9.1mil viewers per game. Game 7 of the 1980 Phillies vs. Royals WS averaged almost 55mil viewers which is significantly more than all five games of the 2023 World Series combined.
2023 NBA Finals averaged 11.6mil viewers per game. 2011 was 17.4mil. Most watched finals (no surprise) Jordan's last dance at 29mil viewers on average.

What the NFL is able to do TV numbers-wise is beyond impressive. Goodell might be a horrible person but the way he's grown the NFL is crazy. Not only in the US but internationally. Over two million people in Germany watched that game even though it started at 12:30AM Monday morning and almost nobody in the country plays American football.
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