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09-21-2017 , 01:30 PM
Not exactly. Same (eventual) parent company, not the same employer. Espn doesn't cut Kimmel's checks.
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09-21-2017 , 01:31 PM
Aah yeah, that's what I meant
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09-21-2017 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
Now if ESPN really wanted to attract viewers, they would have a sports political show with Jemele and Schilling. Talk about ratings! It would easily be their most watched show of the year. Just let them go at it.
Meh, it would the same contrived **** as skip and stephen smith.
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09-21-2017 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
She broadcast her views to her twitter followers.
her personal twitter is covered by ESPN's social media policy

twitter might be okay if she kept her identity hidden
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09-21-2017 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
She broadcast her views to her twitter followers.
99.9% of her Twitter followers were generated solely because of her relationship with ESPN, her employer. I would think she would have to be respectful of that. She can be fired or suspended for her Twitter activity.

http://www.espnfrontrow.com/wp-conte...ng-v2-2011.pdf
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09-21-2017 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DisGunBGud
Jemele is a racist so I find the entire situation pure comedy
lol I love the "(full in black person) is a racist " folks. I see you.
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09-21-2017 , 06:46 PM
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lol I love the "(full in black person) is a racist " folks. I see you.
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09-21-2017 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
Inarguably he has surrounded himself with white supremacists and the case against him personally is decidedly in favor. He's obviously super racist, the next step isn't so far given what we know about him.
Again, ESPN can do what it wants yes but people can and should talk about this. It's real and it's costing people their lives and futures.

It's great to see ESPN talent banding together because they've absolutely got leverage. The "can we just not talk about racism" stuff is particularly invalid when it's the unifying charicteristic of many inner circle Presidential appointees and indeed even the President himself.
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09-21-2017 , 06:49 PM
Black people in the US can't be racist. Prejudiced, ok. But the healthy thing is at least it's still a label that even the racists in power will do anything to fight.
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09-21-2017 , 06:51 PM
Oh cool Clark has fallen into the trappings of postmodernist mumbo jumbo.
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09-21-2017 , 06:54 PM
lol postmodernist. It's literally something I was taught in school in it's 80's and it was correct. Racism involves systematic power differential.
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09-21-2017 , 06:57 PM
At any rate "(black person talking about racism) is the real racist" is 100% absurd stuff that at best is a rationalization to not have to think about things from other perspectives. At best.
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09-21-2017 , 07:32 PM
ClarkNasty,

Words mean what people tend to use them to mean. The world has not come close to accepting that particular instance of language prescriptivism.

Hope this helps.
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09-21-2017 , 07:54 PM
Clark, do you recommend +3 charisma +2 speed iron shields for your fellow social justice warriors, or should they just max out patriarchy defense
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09-21-2017 , 07:59 PM
Responsibility to shareholders ITT

Lmao
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09-21-2017 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
Black people in the US can't be racist. Prejudiced, ok. But the healthy thing is at least it's still a label that even the racists in power will do anything to fight.
What
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09-21-2017 , 07:59 PM
I am a social justice paladin, so I gotta go with some +wisdom as well.
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09-21-2017 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bgordon
ClarkNasty,

Words mean what people tend to use them to mean. The world has not come close to accepting that particular instance of language prescriptivism.

Hope this helps.
This post is asinine and a dogwhistle. I know you've shown up to your Linguistics class once outside the exam, that doesn't make you an expert able to throw down shade on the internet. Clark saying what he thinks the word racist means being the focal point of your rebuttal is so perpendicular to his point as to be idiotic.

Oh and yes, racists are people who use a prejudice on a systemic disparity that black people don't have. That's what normal people think regardless of your altright bubble.
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09-21-2017 , 08:32 PM
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lol postmodernist. It's literally something I was taught in school in it's 80's and it was correct. Racism involves systematic power differential.
postmodernist philosophy started sometime in the '60s (with roots well before that) and critical race theory, a postmodernist doctrine, which is pretty much where "black people can't be racist" spawns from, started in the '80s, so yeah, postmodernist. Anytime you start talking about "systematic power differential" as the basis for anything (and everything), you're talking in postmodernist terms.

I can get deep into why such a notion is absurd, wrong, and even dangerous, but I just got home and I'm going to bed in an hour and I won't be able to do it justice. I will however note the irony that in this instance, the person you're claiming can't be racist due to lack of power has 700k twitter followers, is broadcast into 100s of millions of homes worldwide, is paid millions of dollars, and despite breaking a company policy that multiple other employees have been suspended for violating, management was powerless to discipline her.
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09-21-2017 , 08:34 PM
note I'm not calling Jemele a racist. Just FYI. Frankly don't know jack about Jemele.
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09-21-2017 , 08:41 PM
No one is calling Jemele racist for that tweet afaik. She's been branded a racist long before that.
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09-21-2017 , 08:54 PM
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You know what the issue is.
I'm not sure, but I get the feeling that your issue with her is that she's ... uppity?
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09-21-2017 , 09:00 PM
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Which espn has ceertian policies regarding, which she seemed to violate
Is this really what has you so rustled? How a private corporation decided to handle a personnel issue?
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09-21-2017 , 09:02 PM
The first rule of racism is if you're black kindly stfu about racism or you're the real racist.
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09-21-2017 , 09:09 PM
This thread is very flesh eating bacteria.
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