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i guess i didn't think about how many tweets he has to sort through if he wants to respond to people and yeah filtering all that out would certainly help

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05-13-2011 , 11:22 AM

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If I were uber famous on twitter I would probably block everyone who ever gave me a pointless negative comment. Seems efficient.

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05-13-2011 , 12:05 PM

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Simmons does the stuff he does because it's what sells.

Has anyone read Joe Posnanski's book The Machine? It's about the Big Red Machine of the 70's. In the book, Posnanski uses BA/HR/RBI's as his metrics. He doesn't really use those metrics in his every day writing. But he does it in his book. It's because he knows he'll sell more copies because of people that grew up watching that team.

It's all about what sells. Simmons doesn't give a crap about annoying the 5% that hate his stuff. He cares about the 95% that love it.

Would you recommend it? I love his blog, he's definitely one of the best sportswriters around and has absolutely no ego to show for it. I've never really been interested in the topic but he makes everything seem more interesting than it probably is.

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05-13-2011 , 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chilltown

If I were uber famous on twitter I would probably block everyone who ever gave me a pointless negative comment. Seems efficient.

I used to follo Ocho Cinco on Twitter and had to block him because he tweets like 500x a day. His 1 nugget of gold wasn't worth the 499 pieces of garbage. And that's someone I wanted to follow, not someone that was following me and spamming me with pointless comments.

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05-13-2011 , 12:09 PM

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Oh it's a great book. I'm a Yankee fan and I was born in 1975 so it's not like I followed the Reds back then. He talks about how Sparky Anderson was basically like "OK, there are 4 superstars on the team. They can do whatever they want. The rest of you can go f yourselves."

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05-13-2011 , 12:13 PM

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I'll have to pick it up then. Is there a Poz thread somewhere?

OT - Simmons has a new column out about Phil Jackson, it's basically a Rick Reilly column but a lot better, I'm surprised he wrote about this rather than moaning about the Celtics

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05-13-2011 , 12:21 PM

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Those defending Simmons blocking tweets - I'd buy into it more if it wasn't so consistent with the other evidences of his thin-skinnedness.

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05-13-2011 , 12:28 PM

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Those defending Simmons blocking tweets - I'd buy into it more if it wasn't so consistent with the other evidences of his thin-skinnedness.

it just makes sense that when you are famous on the internet that you do this. iirc part of what sparked simmons's rise was being one of those guys who, at first, answered every fan letter, and i imagine he continues to perpetuate that image with his twitter.

i think being famous on the internet, where thousands of people will hate you for basically no reason (and will tell you that), blocking out haters is essential. i imagine he is thin-skinned in other ways, but i think it's hard to dispute that blocking haters just makes sense.

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05-13-2011 , 12:33 PM

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I'm my saying Simmons isn't a huge bitch cause he is like everyone else from Boston. Just why bother giving one of your many random followers the chance to slightly annoy you with meaningless **** again?

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05-13-2011 , 12:41 PM

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It depends if it was more like "You suck, never write again" or "Your article about the 4th and 2 is dumb because xxxxxxxxxx"

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05-13-2011 , 12:51 PM

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What about a recent timeline tweet.

"@sportsguy33 that column was worse than when twolf did something that no one else but you and 300 other fans of that movie care about"

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05-13-2011 , 12:52 PM

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I haven't read The Machine, but you should absolutely read The Soul of Baseball.

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05-13-2011 , 02:43 PM

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My take: I don't think Jackson is ever coming back. Nothing can top those Jordan years for him. It's impossible. He already had his holy grail. In El Segundo, our conversation kept circling back to MJ, and really, that's why we ended up having lunch in the first place: Jackson had quoted a Jordan argument from my NBA book in two separate interviews (that we need to stop looking for another Michael Jordan, because it's never happening), making me wonder, "Wait, did he read my book?" As it turned out, he had simply thumbed through it in a store for a few minutes before buying it for Odom for Christmas.

Was it telling that he thumbed through a 700-page book just to read the Jordan section? You tell me.

Is he claiming to invent the "we need to stop looking for another Jordan" argument?

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05-13-2011 , 03:06 PM

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Ha, came to post about that. Unless PJ actually referenced Simmons' book that is an astonishing thing to write.

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05-13-2011 , 03:35 PM

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Is he claiming to invent the "we need to stop looking for another Jordan" argument?

How do you even get that from what he wrote? He says that Phil quoted the BBoB.

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On Twitter, I tweeted him one time ripping one of his columns and he blocked me

Ripping? Why wouldn't he block you?

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05-13-2011 , 03:50 PM

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Ripping? Why wouldn't he block you?

Yeah really. If I put out as much content as him (free to the public) and people gave me **** about it I'd definitely block them. Complaining about someone blocking you on twitter because you ripped them is just standard trying to make famous people look bad. It's the same thing where 95% of celebrity encounters end up with the storyteller saying "so-and-so was a douche when I met him."

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05-13-2011 , 03:53 PM

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How do you even get that from what he wrote? He says that Phil quoted the BBoB.

depends, if PJ just said "people should stop trying to find a new Jordan, it's not gonna happen" it's a huge stretch to say he was quoting the book

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05-13-2011 , 04:04 PM

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depends, if PJ just said "people should stop trying to find a new Jordan, it's not gonna happen" it's a huge stretch to say he was quoting the book

I'm assuming BS thought PJ was quoting his book, then asked him about it, at which point PJ said that he thumbed through it before giving it to Odom for Christmas. Read the next sentence after "Wait, did he read my book?" how do you think he got that information?

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05-13-2011 , 04:06 PM

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He says right in that paragraph that "Jackson had quoted a Jordan argument from my NBA book in two separate interviews." Then I guess BS asked Phil about it during their lunch in March, which led to Phil saying that he had only read the Jordan bit.

Feels like some of you are doing crazy mental gymnastics in order to find fault with the guy.

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05-13-2011 , 04:07 PM

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that's not at all what he wrote.

edit: what he actually wrote is that PJ said (twice) that we need to stop looking for another jordan. He wondered if PJ got that from his book and asked him if he had read it. PJ answered that he browsed it. BS than assumes he read the Jordan section.

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05-13-2011 , 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fallen Hero

that's not at all what he wrote.

edit: what he actually wrote is that PJ said (twice) that we need to stop looking for another jordan. He wondered if PJ got that from his book and asked him if he had read it. PJ answered that he browsed it. BS than assumes he read the Jordan section.

I didn't get what you meant until that part, it is a valid argument for sure. That said, I'd say it's pretty likely that BS asked PJ directly if he was quoting the book at the lunch, so if PJ said he wasn't quoting it, then I assume BS would've mentioned that instead of drawing the conclusion that PJ did only read the Jordan section.

Or you could think that Simmons is a huge egomaniac and PJ told him he didn't quote the book, but he went ahead and wrote it anyways. Seems less likely.

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05-13-2011 , 04:24 PM

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LOL WTF, mind is literally blown, that is in fact a direct, word-for-word quote from the column.

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He says right in that paragraph that "Jackson had quoted a Jordan argument from my NBA book in two separate interviews." Then I guess BS asked Phil about it during their lunch in March, which led to Phil saying that he had only read the Jordan bit.

Feels like some of you are doing crazy mental gymnastics in order to find fault with the guy.

this is not said in the article, in fact the article doesn't say what was asked (it hints that the question was: did you read my book).

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05-13-2011 , 04:25 PM

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this is not said in the article, in fact the article doesn't say what was asked (it hints that the question was: did you read my book).

Okay, gotcha, thought it was the quote you were referring to.

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05-13-2011 , 04:29 PM

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My take: I don't think Jackson is ever coming back. Nothing can top those Jordan years for him. It's impossible. He already had his holy grail. In El Segundo, our conversation kept circling back to MJ, and really, that's why we ended up having lunch in the first place: Jackson had quoted a Jordan argument from my NBA book in two separate interviews (that we need to stop looking for another Michael Jordan, because it's never happening), making me wonder, "Wait, did he read my book?" As it turned out, he had simply thumbed through it in a store for a few minutes before buying it for Odom for Christmas.

The bolded is a paraphrase, guys, and probably not what Bill Simmons heard Phil Jackson actually say in the interviews.