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Old 03-09-2012, 06:38 PM   #24726
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42135 imo. Relative to the rest of his career (TILT!!!). Chris Bauer's turn as Frank is some of the best work in the series. James Ransom as Ziggy as well.

Ziggy drives people nuts- but he was a fantastically plausible and well executed idiot. So often a character like that turns into self-parody, or is written just implausibly stupid. Ziggy's just really, really well done. All the stupid **** he does is consistent with the character and makes sense in a way. (also if you saw Generation Kill, you know Ransom is just awesome)
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:38 PM   #24727
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the character of marlo is a good one, but i think of all the major series long players he's probably the one with the weakest acting
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I'm not sure if he is a poor actor. Marlo is supposed to be cold and ruthless and uncharismatic.
Yeah, I haven't seen the actor in anything else but I've heard good things. It's just so rare that we get to see anything from Marlo except that cold gangster front (the obvious exception being "My name is my name").

Jaime Hector really does the silent, cold, unfeeling villain well though.

I understand less the people who have Marlo as a favorite character. He doesn't seem to have the depths or the complexities under the surface that most of the generally-considered favorites do. That's a testament to who Marlo is as a criminal, but it also makes him less interesting as a result.
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:41 PM   #24728
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Yeah- no beef with Marlo- but if he's your favorite over some of the incredibly nuanced well constructed characters on the show- you're likely way overvaluing "badass". Which I guess is cool if that's your thing, but also feels like it's missing the point of the show.
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:44 PM   #24729
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i remember some time in the wire OOTV thread (before i had seen seasons 4-5) i said frank was the most tragic figure in the series. others said, ya, season 4 has more

i guess dukie and randy are definitely on that list but having seen the entire series now i still stand by frank
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:05 PM   #24730
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42315 for me, but I probably have s5 closer to the 4th best season than most. Maybe 9.4/10 and 9.2/10 for 4 and 2 respectively, mid-high 8s for 3 and 1, and ~8.0/10 or something for 5.

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Old 03-09-2012, 07:14 PM   #24731
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like all things, it always comes back to the wire
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:20 PM   #24732
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i blame Simmons.
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:39 PM   #24733
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first viewing i thought 4 crushed all. been rewatching as they are being replayed on tv now. think 2 and 3 were better than 4. 2 may be best even. ziggy was hilarious. mcnulty at the brothel proly funniest scene of the series.
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:45 PM   #24734
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f mcnulty at the brothel proly funniest scene of the series.

Prop Joe's series of phone calls is it for me. Maybe the desk bit is second.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:12 PM   #24735
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Prop Joe's series of phone calls is it for me.
This.

Also loved when the FBI profiled McNulty. His facial expressions when they were reading through their analysis were priceless.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:21 PM   #24736
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I despised Ziggy in The Wire but my most hated TV character was Forest Whitaker playing Lieutenant Jon Kavanaugh in The Shield. God, he played that role so good.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:45 PM   #24737
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Hm you might be onto something with that
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:46 PM   #24738
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I liked Riverman's list a lot. Rawls is so underrated.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:48 PM   #24739
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I've only seen the first season (sans the last 2 episodes). Ok, everyone lol at me now.

Done? Alright.

In my completely unprofessional opinion, Bubbles was my favorite character from S1. He was just done perfectly.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:57 PM   #24740
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It's not my favorite scene or anything, but I love the hell out of the scene where McNulty, Lester and Kima are monitoring Prop Joe's nephew on the phone from the car with the wire and he's saying like:

"Yo man you got that other thing?"..."Nah man the skinny girl"...super frustrated..."COCAINE N**** YOU FEEL ME?" and they all just crack up laughing in the car at how dumb he is.
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:03 PM   #24741
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I liked Riverman's list a lot. Rawls is so underrated.
Rawls and McNulty scenes are some of the best in the whole show.

McNulty screwing them on the body when he did all the work (start of season 2 I think) to see who had the murder on their books was amazing.
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:10 PM   #24742
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Rawls and McNulty scenes are some of the best in the whole show.

McNulty screwing them on the body when he did all the work (start of season 2 I think) to see who had the murder on their books was amazing.
Agreed.
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:24 PM   #24743
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I hate all the mouth breathers that are like OMG WHY DIDN'T THEY ADDRESS RAWLS IN THE GAY BAR
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:25 PM   #24744
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It is funny that The Wire is considered the GOAT when a lot of people really dislike 2/5 seasons.
seriously never understood how people can even claim to have one tbh, but regardless of that, basically every season is great except season 5. But I think it deserves a pass since it was rushed because HBO blew it.
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:31 PM   #24745
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Season 5 is still compelling TV in a vacuum, just not nearly up to the standard of the other 4. I mean it made me ****ing hate Scott at least.
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:38 PM   #24746
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yeah, agree with that Noze. Its good TV, but the length's McNulty and Lester went to set up everything was a stretch. They did a good job of presenting the demise of the newspaper though.
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Old 03-09-2012, 10:13 PM   #24747
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So I am put after the rehearsal dinner for this wedding right now and I heard my buddy ask a bridesmaid when her bf was coming and she said tomm. I hear continued talking and we inquire more about dates and one of the bridesmaids reveals that they all have dates. 3 don't even have bfa. 1 of 7 groomsmen got a date an thats only bc he's married. How pissed should I be? I'm kind of furious and I never fight with friends. Can I just get weed before the wedding without worrying?
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Old 03-09-2012, 10:13 PM   #24748
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Agree on Rawls. Very well written and acted villain character.

Not sure if it's the my favorite season, but the second to last episode of season three - the one which opens with Muzzone and Omar in an alley and near the end has Stringer and Avon on the roof of their condo talking about how they "aint gotta dream no more", a quote which has two totally opposite meanings - is, by far, my favorite episode of the series. To be fair it was able to be that good by virtue of being set up by the episodes running up to it, but it flawlessly brought three seasons of character and plot development to a head in one hour.
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Old 03-09-2012, 10:18 PM   #24749
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So I am put after the rehearsal dinner for this wedding right now and I heard my buddy ask a bridesmaid when her bf was coming and she said tomm. I hear continued talking and we inquire more about dates and one of the bridesmaids reveals that they all have dates. 3 don't even have bfa. 1 of 7 groomsmen got a date an thats only bc he's married. How pissed should I be? I'm kind of furious and I never fight with friends. Can I just get weed before the wedding without worrying?
Just get wasted and have fun
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Old 03-09-2012, 10:23 PM   #24750
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So I am put after the rehearsal dinner for this wedding right now and I heard my buddy ask a bridesmaid when her bf was coming and she said tomm. I hear continued talking and we inquire more about dates and one of the bridesmaids reveals that they all have dates. 3 don't even have bfa. 1 of 7 groomsmen got a date an thats only bc he's married. How pissed should I be? I'm kind of furious and I never fight with friends. Can I just get weed before the wedding without worrying?
I'm pretty sure the marriage is going to be plenty of punishment
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