I'm not saying it wasn't his fault just that he contributed enough volume to be a net positive and it was easy not to engage him on the few topics where he became insufferable. I do think in general the trollee doesn't get enough of the blame but that is a different issue and I (sort of) agree with your post w/r/t assani.

assani is the best poster on the site. The dude gave some $500 for an mspaint of his foot

I guess this is where my problem lies. He clearly wasn't deserving or super close to a permaban before he posted in this thread against Tuq's command, so a permaban seems really harsh.

TuT had actually been posting quite well and seemed to have found his balance between being able to troll and still be a positive addition to the forum. That is why the "well look at all the other stuff he did" argument doesn't really sit well with me because he really wasn't toeing the line with a permaban recently.

I understand that tuq told him not to post in here and he did, but doesn't a week long ban or something of the sort accomplish the saving face while not losing a valuable poster for good?

I realize the mods here give a lot of rope, but I feel like the mods put themselves in a corner and permabanned him for an offense not really equal to the punishment.

And it isn't like TuT is my bff which is obvious, while tuq is a very good mod imo, but he was much better recently than leading up to his previous perma.

You can't call your own blitzes F60. You get benched for that stuff.

He was told not to, he decided to. Is it lame in a vacuum? Obviously. But given his whole body of work? Nah. I mean, he asked for a permaban before and posted horse pron (literally). He was given a 2nd chance, and again, took time and made a conscious decision to do something he knew would result in another permaban. I mean.....hey, have a 3rd chance, til you decide you want to get "perma'd" again! Meh.

I'm too tired of defending him to privately go to bat for him anymore because I know it's a matter of when and not if I'll have to do so yet again in the future. He gawn, and it's a shame. Heck, it's a shame Epi is gone.

Agreed.

What are the mods opinions on Assani and Bobbo?

when bitchface inevitably creates another account, will he be allowed to post?

Aside from a Thunderdome thread, there should be an "Escape from New York" forum where all the banned posters can still post. If they somehow redeem themselves while in that forum, then they can be airlifted out and restored their full privileges.

Mods can be "the Mayor," "Snake Plissken," etc.

cpl def got the haters mad

they'll both be back so its not a huge deal. Don't really agree with Epi's ban, BF's at least makes sense b/c he's been multi perma'd but I think the forum is better when they're both around mixing it up

one thing I don't get is posters saying they agree with one ban but not the other. these dudes worked as a team, if you're happy about one you should be happy about the other vice versa

I still like tuq tho its not a democracy itb

Short of Oski's thunderdome thread idea, I have zero intentions of letting Epi back. Tuq is responsible for TuT but I'd be shocked if he plans on the mebenhoe "2nd handle is fine" approach.

so, whichever mod issues the perma has total control over future destiny. i dunno why thats funny to me.

I would be scrambling to permaban people for as little as possible then extort them and others. $$$$$, yo.

Pretty much, yes. It's a testament to our collective patience that it's such a relatively rare occurance.

This is the problem with your thinking. He had bursts and patches of positivity... But they were way, way, way outweighed by the negativity. If a person does a thing well once out of 10, can that be classified as a net positive? He was bad to awful (depending on the poster and interaction) in both basketball and footie threads.

I'm advocating the "Escape from New York" plan. It's not a thread; its a sub-forum where banned posters can post. they would be excluded from all other areas of 2p2 except from that particular forum. they will have their own threads, and etc.

If a non-banned poster wants to wander in there, fine ... it's like being caught outside after dark in "the Omega Man" and you are on your own.

I'm guessing WIM HOF's middle name is GOAT

oski's idea is awesome. id imagine it would quickly gain the moast traffic on the foarum.

ofc, no way the admins would allow it. much of the reason poasters are banned is bc their presence reflects poorly on the 2p2 name brand. horsep0rn and hatespeak and scameing are considered dangerous.

but, perhaps theres a way to confine it to mere troalls.

Isn't that called skype chat

assani openly ADMITS to trolling but hes ur bff and u agree with him= OMG best poster on this site he owned everyone!!!

BF trolling= huge negative to this site, dont care about anything he adds bc it cant possibly make up for it

lol booboo

How about members with <100 posts can only start threads in that forum and thremp, bitchface and edfurlong can do what they do best

I hate US-born Americans using the word footie. Seems so pretentious and wannabe.

You have one of those pop up waivers to gain access to the "Escape from New York Forum." Once you pass, you are on your own.