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05-16-2011 , 12:13 PM

#11226

ThaSaltCracka

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It's worth pointing out that dids last ban was for trolling in se and he bitched about it endlessly in oot.

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05-16-2011 , 12:14 PM

#11227

TimmayB

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Dids definitely bringing down SE with his trolling.

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05-16-2011 , 12:15 PM

#11228

ClarkNasty

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No popcorn, Dids is aware of my thoughts on it and it's not gonna devolve as we just disagree on the subject obv.

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05-16-2011 , 12:18 PM

#11229

TimmayB

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Pretty sure that's everyone's thoughts on the matter.

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05-16-2011 , 12:44 PM

#11230

anononon

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What forum does Dids even moderate? Isn't it TV or something? That's like calling Buzz a terrible Omaha mod. That may be true, but who gives a ****. No one reads it.

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05-16-2011 , 12:46 PM

#11231

Dids

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Originally Posted by ThaSaltCracka

It's worth pointing out that dids ONLY ban was for CAT ANUS in se and he bitched about it endlessly in oot.

FYP

I'm not sure I'd say endlessly either.

I don't think SE is close to politics yet, it's just an example of the sort of thing that can happen when you allow posters to continually post things they know not to be true to just get a rise out of people. It's not so much about heated arguments or strong opinions- it's when you combine all of that with people who are perpetually disingenuous with what they post in the name of getting a rise. (again, not really saying this happens often in SE, although the Variety Show draft was somewhat akin to that).

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05-16-2011 , 12:51 PM

#11232

ClarkNasty

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Originally Posted by kyleb

What forum does Dids even moderate? Isn't it TV or something? That's like calling Buzz a terrible Omaha mod. That may be true, but who gives a ****. No one reads it.

He was foisted upon the main OOT forum under cloak of darkness or something.

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05-16-2011 , 12:53 PM

#11233

Triumph36

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Originally Posted by Dids

I would agree that this is likely true. There's still far too many trolls that are allowed to run free. The bar for what's considered trolling is set too high and you could improve the forum a lot with more aggressive moderation. That's the point I'm trying to make relative to SE. I don't think forums that are prone to a lot of argument and trolling benefit from giving people a lot of rope.

speaking as someone who agrees with dids far more than i'd like to admit, this is not correct. i think in politics it might be, but in SE, it's just fun to troll. it's part of the enjoyment of being a sports fan. i think the SE mods are doing a pretty bang-up job.

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05-16-2011 , 12:54 PM

#11234

Needle77

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Hehe...you said bang.

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05-16-2011 , 12:55 PM

#11235

Geddy Lee

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Is it just because I'm lol Canadian that I'm not reading the threads where SE is apparently so awful? I didn't realize the haters were this mad recently over SE's supposed devolution.

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05-16-2011 , 12:57 PM

#11236

anononon

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Given the posters involved, it probably has to do with TZ.

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05-16-2011 , 01:05 PM

#11237

kevin21

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Originally Posted by Geddy Lee

Is it just because I'm lol Canadian that I'm not reading the threads where SE is apparently so awful?

Seems if you don't follow basketball you're out of the loop.

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05-16-2011 , 01:06 PM

#11238

Dids

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Originally Posted by Triumph36

Fair point. I think the things I have seen have been less sports related and more the non-sports drafts and some of the TZ kids showing up in other forums. I do think the SE mods do a good job- I just also think that it's not unthinkable that at some point (if something changed) more aggressive/subjective moderation could be needed- especially in an environment where it's agreed that some degree of trolling is fun/acceptable.

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05-16-2011 , 01:08 PM

#11239

Dids

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

He was foisted upon the main OOT forum under cloak of darkness or something.

Just for full disclosure:

I was originally modded just to run the OOT poster draft, and then killa decided I would stay to piss off Tuq (I was no party to this at all). It happened to be at a time when a lot of the other OOT mods were busy having kids and other ****, so it worked out. Beyond a terribly insensitive thing I did last week, it's pretty much been without complaint.

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05-16-2011 , 01:12 PM

#11240

Triumph36

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Originally Posted by Dids

i agree that in the future non-sports drafts should either be heavily moderated or the commissioner of the draft should be very selective about who gets to draft. but in general, the threads i post in don't have many problems.

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05-16-2011 , 01:16 PM

#11241

Fyte On

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No more Dougie

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...-m-bone-murder

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05-16-2011 , 01:16 PM

#11242

Needle77

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I am going to commish the next NFL draft that will be popping up on memorial day weekend. *spoilersssssssssssssssssss*

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05-16-2011 , 01:25 PM

#11243

Schwallie

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Originally Posted by Dids

I agree kinda, but only with the disingenuous stuff. But then again it is why Epi is banned and Bitchface is on a short leash along with the rest of their group. Don't need to punish everyone who gets pissed off and trolls but have to keep a tight leash on the ones that just bring everything down

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05-16-2011 , 01:37 PM

#11244

ThaSaltCracka

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Originally Posted by Geddy Lee

Is it just because I'm lol Canadian that I'm not reading the threads where SE is apparently so awful? I didn't realize the haters were this mad recently over SE's supposed devolution.

By and large things are better since Lloyd and t36 brought everything up and it seems most people got the message after some strict moderating. Still not "perfect" but nothing really worth complaining about imo, but the whining has been funny.

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05-16-2011 , 01:57 PM

#11245

Omar Comin

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

He was foisted upon the main OOT forum under cloak of darkness or something.

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05-16-2011 , 02:04 PM

#11246

BobboFitos

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Originally Posted by kyleb

Given the posters involved, it probably has to do with TZ.

Except it doesn't

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05-16-2011 , 02:28 PM

#11247

Phildo

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Originally Posted by Triumph36

speaking as someone who agrees with dids far more than i'd like to admit, this is not correct. i think in politics it might be, but in SE, it's just fun to troll. it's part of the enjoyment of being a sports fan. i think the SE mods are doing a pretty bang-up job.

a disturbing number of people think of politics the way most people think of sports (you identify with a team and mindlessly root for it) and therefore probably get just as much enjoyment out of trolling the opposition as we do.