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Old 05-10-2011, 10:11 AM   #10851
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Is there some kind of unknown rule I have missed that has allowed schwallie to just continually slobber all over lebron, never add any content and snap at anyone who even slightly bashes his boy? Why is Vic banned over him? Sincere question, btw, I thought Vic was pretty useful at times at least and schwallie has been at a pretty close to 100% only talking/slobbering over lebron and the heat rate for some time.
Sorry brah, that's over the top trolling. And no, I don't think Schwallie's is the same thing.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:18 AM   #10852
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Sorry brah, that's over the top trolling. And no, I don't think Schwallie's is the same thing.
lol. Excellent reason on front page though. I thought for a second I was just being paranoid about how much I see him trolling, but now I found this thread and saw the 6 other bans for it, mebbe I just noticed it a lot recently
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:31 AM   #10853
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If Victor made the exact same posts Schwallie has made over the last two days, he would have been banned by now.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:35 AM   #10854
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If Victor made the exact same posts Schwallie has made over the last two days, he would have been banned by now.
Oh spare me. I'm not going to play the "if this then this" game for every ban. Schwallies posts have been over the top but at least obviously so and he's dialed it back and admitted some of what he did was obnoxious. His body of work isn't even on the same par as Epi or Vic or others. Just because he hasn't had a ban as a result of his last week's work doesn't mean he's immune or not close to the line.

Anyways, not gonna debate every judgment call.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:35 AM   #10855
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Schwallie's recent posting has been like an exact accidental imitation of eyescrew. He's trolling hard in support of his bandwaggoning team while at the same time trying to make it seem like he's just a donk trying to learn. Its super annoying.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:35 AM   #10856
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If Victor made the exact same posts Schwallie has made over the last two days, he would have been banned by now.
No way did I expect the partner-in-crime to come to Epi's defense in this one..so surprised. Then again, you are perm-banned on your other account and the mods are apparently nice enough to allow you to stay and/or troll on the new one even though they know its you, so they probably aren't all that bad of guys.

Seriously though, I like Vic and his posting, dunno why he is banned.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:38 AM   #10857
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Schwallie's recent posting has been like an exact accidental imitation of eyescrew. He's trolling hard in support of his bandwaggoning team while at the same time trying to make it seem like he's just a donk trying to learn. Its super annoying.
Meh I trolled about reffing once and may have said something/anything last night drunk, but think I was mostly talking normal NBA stuff.

Only reason you're annoyed is because in my normal posting if Epi responds and its a troll I point it out, because its been getting super old that he literally posts like 100% trolls in the threads I watch. He probably posts better on MLB or something, but just during the threads I watch most(Heat, Lakers, NBA) he is constantly doing it.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:40 AM   #10858
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Oh spare me. I'm not going to play the "if this then this" game for every ban. Schwallies posts have been over the top but at least obviously so and he's dialed it back and admitted some of what he did was obnoxious. His body of work isn't even on the same par as Epi or Vic or others. Just because he hasn't had a ban as a result of his last week's work doesn't mean he's immune or not close to the line.

Anyways, not gonna debate every judgment call.
there are likely people worth debating about 'judgment calls'.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:40 AM   #10859
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Oh spare me. I'm not going to play the "if this then this" game for every ban. Schwallies posts have been over the top but at least obviously so and he's dialed it back and admitted some of what he did was obnoxious. His body of work isn't even on the same par as Epi or Vic or others. Just because he hasn't had a ban as a result of his last week's work doesn't mean he's immune or not close to the line.

Anyways, not gonna debate every judgment call.
Yep, dunno why anyone gets mad about bans. I would have been fine for getting banned for the dumb trolling on the ref situation or calling out Epi too much or something(not sure if thats against the rules).

If you get banned for the seventh time, it kinda might be time to realize you might be in the wrong and are being detrimental/annoying to the majority.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:41 AM   #10860
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I'm about to head out. I can't really quantify this, but I'll say, "not very much, but better than nothing."

If you're trying to hint at Asik, then I'll just say that I have other reasons to believe he's pretty damn good on defense (including eye-test), but I'd have to see him do it in starters minutes before he made a top-10 list.
this sort of reasonable, common-sense analysis has no place on an internet sports forum

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Except for the fact his RAPM is so high, much higher than the pretty low SE, means that even if he's not historically great, at worst, he's pretty ****ing good.

Meaning, you can't dismiss his numbers - you may argue he's not actually the SECOND best defender in the league (I wouldn't mind that position) but at worst he's top 10, basically.
depends on how you define the word basically, basically

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Old 05-10-2011, 10:43 AM   #10861
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and I know its a body of work thing, but I don't think Epis posts from today were at all ban-worthy
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:44 AM   #10862
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Just found this thread and looked in the front for reasoning on Victor's perm-ban. I don't want to look through 109 pages and figured it would be on the first page, why is it not? Can anyone give me a brief summary since it isn't listed where it should be or what-not?
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:49 AM   #10863
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Just found this thread and looked in the front for reasoning on Victor's perm-ban. I don't want to look through 109 pages and figured it would be on the first page, why is it not? Can anyone give me a brief summary since it isn't listed where it should be or what-not?
My understanding is he was temp banned for the death hoax thing, then despite at least one warning and knowing it was a bad idea, he came back and kept posting under a couple of different gimmicks, basically ignoring the ban and knowing that people have been toasted for circumvention (let alone repeated circumvention) in the past.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:50 AM   #10864
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Just found this thread and looked in the front for reasoning on Victor's perm-ban. I don't want to look through 109 pages and figured it would be on the first page, why is it not? Can anyone give me a brief summary since it isn't listed where it should be or what-not?
victor was banned for 2 weeks for attempting to perpetrate some sort of hoax. tu.q said that if anyone banned protested with a gimmick they would get permbanned. victor protested with a gimmick.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:51 AM   #10865
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My understanding is he was temp banned for the death hoax thing, then despite at least one warning and knowing it was a bad idea, he came back and kept posting under a couple of different gimmicks, basically ignoring the ban and knowing that people have been toasted for circumvention (let alone repeated circumvention) in the past.
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victor was banned for 2 weeks for attempting to perpetrate some sort of hoax. tu.q said that if anyone banned protested with a gimmick they would get permbanned. victor protested with a gimmick.
Got it, guess it is understandable then
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:59 AM   #10866
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it sounds more reasonable when its cliffed like that

the issue that I (and others I think) had was that the alleged "hoax" or whatever shouldn't have resulted in a ban. Vic disobeyed Tuq, but he shouldn't have been put in that position in the first place. And even as it played out he shouldn't have been perma'd. Tuq mad tho

Mods have been super defensive about it, leading me to believe that they know that the situation was handled poorly, but can't go back on the banning quite yet b/c of the need to save face :/ serious business

based on my extensive polling the public stands firmly with VICTOR
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:00 AM   #10867
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IIRC, the post victor made on the gimmick was about Jetto not being involved with the hoax
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:19 AM   #10868
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based on my extensive polling the public stands firmly with VICTOR
When you update your numbers you can put me in the camp that's really ****ing tired of hearing about poor Victor.
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:22 AM   #10869
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I only keep track of pro victor votes, sorry
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:37 AM   #10870
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IIRC, the post victor made on the gimmick was about Jetto not being involved with the hoax
no i'm pretty sure it was about showing how big his internet dick is. he obv coulda pmed tuq with the gimmick instead of posting ~5 minutes after tuq told him not to.
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:46 AM   #10871
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he obv coulda pmed tuq with the gimmick instead of posting ~5 minutes after tuq told him not to.
I'm not defending victor at all or even taking a side, but no he couldn't. PMs are disabled on accounts under 20 posts. (unless this was an existing gimmick w/ 20+ posts obv)

however, he coulda emailed or had someone else relay the message in another way, obviously.
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https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/219440/

it was a gimmick account with 219 posts
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:55 AM   #10873
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Nice try, counselor.


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Old 05-10-2011, 11:56 AM   #10874
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:58 AM   #10875
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The Free Victor movement really should just stop. Victor has made it clear he doesn't want people campaigning for him
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