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Old 04-29-2011, 10:22 PM   #10076
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Literally everyone I know who has gone to law school hates it. Literally.
I enjoy it quite a bit. I'm not sure if I'd qualify as being "known" by you, but if so, literally ain't so appropriate.

And I know quite a few other people in law school who don't hate it either. I also know a lot of good attorneys who do great work for people and still pay off their debt easily. The LRAP program we have at Georgetown makes it very easy to go into public interest work, still earn your full salary and not have to worry about loans. Your criticisms, while certainly applicable to many people, seem largely uninformed, especially since you insist on generalizing and "literally" applying everything to all law students. I don't want to be that nit that jumps on you for speaking in absolutes, but many of your comments are grossly off base.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:23 PM   #10077
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Most of my friends who went to law school thought it was tough but seemed to like it.

Making money for the sake of making money is a guaranteed path to being miserable though imo.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:24 PM   #10078
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I know a lot more lawyers who don't make much money and love their work than those who make a ton and don't like it.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:25 PM   #10079
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I enjoy it quite a bit. I'm not sure if I'd qualify as being "known" by you, but if so, literally ain't so appropriate.

And I know quite a few other people in law school who don't hate it either. I also know a lot of good attorneys who do great work for people and still pay off their debt easily. The LRAP program we have at Georgetown makes it very easy to go into public interest work, still earn your full salary and not have to worry about loans. Your criticisms, while certainly applicable to many people, seem largely uninformed, especially since you insist on generalizing and "literally" applying everything to all law students. I don't want to be that nit that jumps on you for speaking in absolutes, but many of your comments are grossly off base.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:26 PM   #10080
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Suzzer,

Your examples of intern level writers being hired by a big newspaper in KC isn't evidence of the hardships of sports journalists during the death of the newspaper. It is instead an example of the talented writers no longer needing to pander to the old boys network that guides the sinking ship that is newspaper journalism.

Great young writers are still writing. Just not for newspapers, because they no longer need them.
my roommate is a sports journalists for some small time papers in the west bay RI area. he's actually a pretty good writer (granted there are a lot of good writers out there) and I can't convince him to look for a new route on his career. gonna be a crusty, bitter man in 10-15 years imo.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:27 PM   #10081
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I know a lot more lawyers who don't make much money and love their work than those who make a ton and don't like it. But it's fun to just spew random crap we heard right!?
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:35 PM   #10082
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my sis wasn't particularly fond of law school, but she likes her job now. she does tax law/estate planning. she makes good bank but her monthly debt payments are hilarious.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:46 PM   #10083
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Literally everyone I know who has gone to law school hates it. Literally. I don't know why anyone would do it. "Yeah, get 120k in debt doing three years of something we hate, so we can do many more years of something we hate to pay off that debt! Woooo!"
You actually think they all genuinely regret doing all that, after the fact? They must be somewhat smart and rational people to figure out tuis was going to be the case down the road. I think it's more likely they're just trying to be humble and keep things loose and relatable when conversing with most college dropouts. (and I don't mean that as an attack on college dropouts...I am one myself).

My best friend is a lawyer and I know for a fact that he loves what he does and didn't once truly regret his path to get there...on the otherhand I also see how he downplays it (his success) infront of others.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:50 PM   #10084
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I enjoy it quite a bit. I'm not sure if I'd qualify as being "known" by you, but if so, literally ain't so appropriate.

And I know quite a few other people in law school who don't hate it either. I also know a lot of good attorneys who do great work for people and still pay off their debt easily. The LRAP program we have at Georgetown makes it very easy to go into public interest work, still earn your full salary and not have to worry about loans. Your criticisms, while certainly applicable to many people, seem largely uninformed, especially since you insist on generalizing and "literally" applying everything to all law students. I don't want to be that nit that jumps on you for speaking in absolutes, but many of your comments are grossly off base.
I mean, you don't qualify for these purposes. I'm talking about people in my relatively immediate group of IRL friends, which is of course a small sample size. I assume not everyone hates it, or people wouldn't keep going. But of those people, they all complained about the workload (both its volume and nature) and the ones who are working now work a minimum of 60 hours a week, usually more. I mean I have a friend who comes home at 9 or 10 on weekdays and usually goes in weekends-- including Sunday. And they tell other people these things, and they keep going anyway. I have a friend finishing up 1L now and talking about how much she hates the workload-- things she knew going into it, and frankly I don't even think she's that interested in being a lawyer.

I'm sure it's for some people, I just really want to see my friends stop spending so much time doing something they hate.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:52 PM   #10085
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You actually think they all genuinely regret doing all that, after the fact? They must be somewhat smart and rational people to figure out tuis was going to be the case down the road. I think it's more likely they're just trying to be humble and keep things loose and relatable when conversing with most college dropouts. (and I don't mean that as an attack on college dropouts...I am one myself).

My best friend is a lawyer and I know for a fact that he loves what he does and didn't once truly regret his path to get there...on the otherhand I also see how he downplays it (his success) infront of others.
I mean, I'm close enough friends with them that I assume they are being honest with me, and I know the kind of workload they take on. Granted, one of them seems to hate himself so it makes total sense he would do that, but in general, I think some of these people just did it because they didn't know what else to do, and it gave them something with tangible goals / measurables to focus on.

Considering when most of them were in law school I was making more than they are now (lol I'm not now obviously) I think the humility angle is highly unlikely. They know they don't have to fake anything around me.
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:02 PM   #10086
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i get the sense, as a total outsider, that a lot of people go into law because it's a profession where you read and write all day, you don't really do math, it's ostensibly 'safe', ostensibly 'noble', and can be 'important' (i.e. television shows are made featuring lawyers). law school is also something to do for the aimless liberal arts graduate.
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:07 PM   #10087
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I mean, you don't qualify for these purposes. I'm talking about people in my relatively immediate group of IRL friends, which is of course a small sample size. I assume not everyone hates it, or people wouldn't keep going. But of those people, they all complained about the workload (both its volume and nature) and the ones who are working now work a minimum of 60 hours a week, usually more. I mean I have a friend who comes home at 9 or 10 on weekdays and usually goes in weekends-- including Sunday. And they tell other people these things, and they keep going anyway. I have a friend finishing up 1L now and talking about how much she hates the workload-- things she knew going into it, and frankly I don't even think she's that interested in being a lawyer.

I'm sure it's for some people, I just really want to see my friends stop spending so much time doing something they hate.
So do you see why all the generalizations and insults you threw at the entire industry before are stupid now?
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:15 PM   #10088
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:16 PM   #10089
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you could say nath made a karakature of the profession.
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:31 AM   #10090
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I must be getting old. Anyone could post whatever they want about me and I don't care. There is a certain poster who must be legit ******ed but I won't even bother with that fool. It feels pretty good tbh
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:32 AM   #10091
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:32 AM   #10092
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There is a certain poster who must be legit ******ed but I won't even bother with that fool.
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:38 AM   #10093
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he's primarily a hockey poster afaik so i'll guess he's talking about colew123 who seems quite popular with the hockey posters
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:40 AM   #10094
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Law school sucks don't do it.
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Old 04-30-2011, 01:15 AM   #10095
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Old 04-30-2011, 06:23 AM   #10096
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Coming to America with Eddie Murphy is the GOAT movie

Anyone who thinks otherwise is s a child molester and a snappy dresser
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Old 04-30-2011, 06:25 AM   #10097
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So do you see why all the generalizations and insults you threw at the entire industry before are stupid now?
The **** are you on about? I said all my friends who went to law school hated it and you take it personally, in a condescending tone nonetheless? Not everything is about you.
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Old 04-30-2011, 07:20 AM   #10098
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Nath v Karak emo war to end all emo wars?
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Old 04-30-2011, 07:21 AM   #10099
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The **** are you on about? I said all my friends who went to law school hated it and you take it personally, in a condescending tone nonetheless? Not everything is about you.
Not everything is, but most things are.
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:44 AM   #10100
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Coming to America with Eddie Murphy is the GOAT movie

Anyone who thinks otherwise is s a child molester and a snappy dresser
Trading Places>Coming to America
(but it's close)
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