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Your arguments as far as I could tell all dealt with the effect on fantasy player values and did not touch on the mirroring real football issue but maybe I missed it im doing a lot of multi-tasking.

I realize the conclusion is the same but the latter is a more logical way of getting there imo since I think you have the effect on player values backwards, as it makes things more balanced, not less.

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07-30-2013 , 09:10 PM

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Your arguments as far as I could tell all dealt with the effect on fantasy player values and did not touch on the mirroring real football issue but maybe I missed it im doing a lot of multi-tasking.

In real football a half-inch GL TD>8 catches for 40 yards. Shrug.

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07-30-2013 , 09:11 PM

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I'm guessing that they started using PPR in a response to teams adapting west-coasty playbooks. Offenses replaced runs with short passes like SPIDER 2Y BANANANANANA so there was a lot more value added to the overall scheme.

Now that teams are getting more spready and rules are favoring WRs so much, .5 PPR is probably > PPR if you want fantasy football to mirror real life.

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In real football a half-inch GL TD>8 catches for 40 yards. Shrug.

Ya fair enough.

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ppr sucks from a logical standpoint because a reception means nothing in a game of football.

hand-off and you get 5 yards? half a point

catch a swing pass and get five yards? THREE TIMES AS VALUABLE

correct

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07-30-2013 , 09:12 PM

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.25 PPR is where it's at can never gain any traction to actually making it happen tho.

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07-30-2013 , 09:13 PM

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I think that's where the big divide is. I don't really care if it exactly mirrors real life. If I did then I'd play in a league that rewarded offensive linemen for successful blocks and ****.

Nvm, don't care enough to really argue about it especially in the FAQ

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07-30-2013 , 09:13 PM

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Partially this and partially because even the biggest fantasy fish realized that simply taking running backs in both of the first 2 rounds no matter what was a pretty unexploitable strategy imo.

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07-30-2013 , 09:13 PM

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In real football a half-inch GL TD>8 catches for 40 yards. Shrug.

Whats more likely to happen?

a) A team with the ball on the 1/2 inch line scores a touch down with the second string RB

b) A team gains 40 yards total over 8 plays with their 3rd or 4th string WR

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07-30-2013 , 09:13 PM

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Receptions are definitely valuable but not near as valuable as 1 point per makes them. We really need KARAK's opinion on this.

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07-30-2013 , 09:14 PM

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Same. Ideally it would be its own fun and balanced game while also mirroring real life but if I have to sacrifice one or the other I'm sacrificing the latter every time.

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07-30-2013 , 09:15 PM

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Have fun drafting offensive linemen.

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Whats more likely to happen?

a) A team with the ball on the 1/2 inch line scores a touch down with the second string RB

b) A team gains 40 yards total over 8 plays with their 3rd or 4th string WR

A is more likely to happen. But like I said if you're starting that second string RB you're doing it wrong most likely. A also has more value irl.

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Originally Posted by NLSoldier

Same. Ideally it would be its own fun and balanced game while also mirroring real life but if I have to sacrifice one or the other I'm sacrificing the latter every time.

PPR does the opposite tho ffs is my point.

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This is the most legit argument argument against PPR imo. It just comes down to how much you want fantasy to be a balanced game vs how much you want it to mirror real football. Also this is another problem that is solved by doing "point per 1st down reception."

It's a legit argument but the argument for PPR is catching a pass even if it is a swing pass still slightly > skill then taking a handoff...hell you can make an argument that catching a pitch toss sweep right/left should be = to catching a screen pass in PPR.

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07-30-2013 , 09:18 PM

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Elite pass catchers catch passes all the time. Any random scrub can have 8 receptions in a game. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

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07-30-2013 , 09:26 PM

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LOL not really all it does is make non-elite WRs closer to elite. Your true elite WRs are always going to put up/average a lot of points. All PPR is doing is rewarding some random **** who happens to catch a lot of passes in one game.

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Elite pass catchers catch passes all the time. Any random scrub can have 8 receptions in a game. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

this seems pretty much backwards to me. ppr leads to more consistent value than pure yards/tds-based scoring does afaik.

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07-30-2013 , 09:28 PM

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this seems pretty much backwards to me. ppr leads to more consistent value than pure yards/tds-based scoring does afaik.

LOL how? The best players put up pure yards and TDs anyway.

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In real football a half-inch GL TD>8 catches for 40 yards. Shrug.

No it's not

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07-30-2013 , 09:31 PM

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LOL how? The best players put up pure yards and TDs anyway.

you're really not trying very hard to comprehend the contrary argument.

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07-30-2013 , 09:32 PM

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No it's not

LOL you can take 40 yards everytime and I'll take 6 points. Pretty sure I has the edge there since any random guy can catch 8 balls for 40 yards.

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07-30-2013 , 09:33 PM

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you're really not trying very hard to comprehend the contrary argument.

It's cuz I don't understand it at all really.

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07-30-2013 , 09:34 PM

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Any random guy can't run half an inch at the goal line? (This isn't my reasoning btw)

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