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Originally Posted by kbfc
The thread-title and subforum stuff was what I was referring to as forum formatting, which I agree are perfectly reasonable mod actions.
As for the name-calling, I think it's a little naive to think that helped anything. I guess a few thin-skinned posters may have liked it better (not that I particularly care to share a forum with them anyway, I'd imagine), but it's generally just a mockery where more time gets wasted debating about what is or isn't over some imaginary line of offensiveness. I don't consider it a win (or a loss for that matter) if name-calling is simply forced to appear worded slightly differently.
Actually, it cut down on that stuff considerably. It's hard to have real discussion when every disagreement is "stop being a moron". That's what it was. Unfortunately, it's backslid a bit, and that causes more angst and honestly I think we need to crack down on it again. I'm guilty of name calling myself so I'm not excusing myself from blame in that regard.
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You've got this completely backwards. I became real-life friends with Assani in the first place 100% because of his posting on here, and the same is true with Bobbo.
Chicken and egg is irrelevant when the bias is pretty obvious. And you certainly are aware of his issues, so you aren't blind. But definitely biased.
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To sum up his contributions as the FBG draft, biased football analysis (as if any of the rest of the self-aware lot here are above this), and a thread about Denver is silliness, and you're better than that.
Oh, please, do you seriously think it was meant to be an exhaustive recap of Assani's SE resume?
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There is nobody on here, Bobbo excluded, who is willing to explore the depths of an argument anywhere near the level Assani will. That he is sometimes (or often, as happens when you post a lot) wrong is so completely irrelevant that I don't know what else to say. The fact that these aspects are so often seen as a negative on here is simply disappointing.
You've said this before privately as a suspicion, but you severely underestimate the impact that their trolling has on people's perception of them when they are trying to have a legit debate. So you think it's disappointing that when Assani "wants to be taken seriously", he isn't (or it's viewed as a negative), but it's Assani's own fault, not some suboptimal flaw in the forum
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Maybe the forum would be better if instead of worrying about modding meme overuse, our good veteran posters wouldn't stoke the flames with dismissive accusations of "bobbotarding" or "assanitrolling" when these guys go out of their way to post what comprises almost all of what's left of interesting, thought-provoking content in TZ these days.
Re: the first part. Those types of accusations don't just come out of the blue man.
Re: bolded, the prosecution rests re: bias. I'm flabbergasted at that statement. (and I think Bobbo has by-and-large been outstanding lately)
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His artful trolling is just icing.
Nah, it's a negative. When the Asseni gimmick is as successful as it is, it should be obvious there's a problem. Assani has caused multiple threads in the ATF forum of posters who wanted him banned due to his trolling. In what way is that a good thing? It detracts from all of the positive things he does. You blame the forum for not taking him seriously when he wants to be, but how do you not see that it's all Assani's own fault?
Last edited by ClarkNasty; 03-08-2011 at 11:55 AM.