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Old 03-07-2011, 06:41 PM   #7626
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Yeah bro I'm gonna spend my day searching your archives. Does it count if I find posts where you absurdly overrate someone and then vehemently defend your opinion?
well u take the internet moar seriously than anyone in 2p2 history so yea u probably did and found out that if u searched "u mad" plus my name there were only 4 posts all of which bashed the u mad stuff (so a total of 0 memetards on that front).

and who did i "absurdly overrate"? I assume ur talkin about brady who is clearly better than manning or do u have someone else in mind?
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:45 PM   #7627
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In your opinion am I showing my work?
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:46 PM   #7628
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Hopefully people find this all cathartic and it ends soon, because yeah, this thread was kind of entertaining when it was more random stuff.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:49 PM   #7629
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well u take the internet moar seriously than anyone in 2p2 history
Says the guy who throws ****-fits anytime someone misspells or miscapitalizes his username. But it would take at least one iota of self-awareness to not accuse people of the **** you're guilty of.

Also, pudge just found 7 or 8 examples of you using one meme. I bet if anyone searched for "u mad" or any of the other memes they would find more. Again, I suppose it would take an iota of self-awareness for you to realize your previous post was full of ****.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:49 PM   #7630
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I have like 7-8 show your works, for like 7-8 memetards total. There are probably 50 people in SE who have memetarded moar than that.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:51 PM   #7631
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Says the guy who throws ****-fits anytime someone misspells or miscapitalizes his username. But it would take at least one iota of self-awareness to not accuse people of the **** you're guilty of.

Also, pudge just found 7 or 8 examples of you using one meme. I bet if anyone searched for "u mad" or any of the other memes they would find more. Again, I suppose it would take an iota of self-awareness for you to realize your previous post was full of ****.
throw a fit? wat? go search epeen and see how many times I responded with a fit or even responded to epeen at all?

for someone as "self-aware" as you, you really are one of the worst in that department. did you not just see I have not said "u mad" in a memetard way once? that would require 3rd grade reading skills tho so u probably didn't.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:53 PM   #7632
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I have like 7-8 show your works, for like 7-8 memetards total. There are probably 50 people in SE who have memetarded moar than that.
Your opinion on the subject of you is drowned out by the much larger volume of respected posters who all cite you as being an ongoing problem. These are posters who seem to have no coordinated interest or friendship or ax to grind other than you being annoying.

Setting aside the fact that people have a hard time being objective about themselves, if forced to choose between your opinion that you aren't tarding up the forum and the scores of posters who claim that you are, it's not a hard choice and no, they don't need to show their work.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:56 PM   #7633
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lol respected posters
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:56 PM   #7634
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:57 PM   #7635
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throw a fit? wat?
I have pretty distinct memories of you doing these all the way back to the first NBA dynasty draft. Whether or not you still do it is debatable, but hey, if I was you I'd probably have a lot invested in my forum image too.
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did you not just see I have not said "u mad" in a memetard way once? that would require 3rd grade reading skills tho so u probably didn't.
I saw that you wrote you didn't use it. I also have seen that you're so full of **** that taking you at face value would be a mistake.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:58 PM   #7636
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lol respected posters
With gems like these, I can't imagine how this forum would ever get along without you.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:59 PM   #7637
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Hopefully people find this all cathartic and it ends soon, because yeah, this thread was kind of entertaining when it was more random stuff.
This this this.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:59 PM   #7638
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trust me if i had used "u mad" in a memetard way police chief pudge would be here within 5 seconds to call me out on it
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:01 PM   #7639
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I don't think Epi was ever on the umad bandwagon but he's done enough show your work and $how your work to more than make up for it
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:02 PM   #7640
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trust me if i had used "u mad" in a memetard way police chief pudge would be here within 5 seconds to call me out on it
See, this is the great thing about you. You say stupid ****, then you lie about saying stupid ****, then when someone calls you out for saying stupid ****, you call them names to deflect from how full of **** you are.
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:02 PM   #7641
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Meh, there were many posters who at the time sent PMs thanking me for making the forum readable. All we did was "no name calling" and rigorously enforce it for about a month, get rid of the *****OFFICIAL**************** threads (that was in every single thread title) and ask for more informative thread titles in their place. That's it, but it was hugely effective and traffic started increasing well above any general water level increase.

About the only other thing I ever really did was move single team season threads into their own subforum. I still don't know if that was good or bad but it sure makes the front page better for me personally, so I'm happy with it.
The thread-title and subforum stuff was what I was referring to as forum formatting, which I agree are perfectly reasonable mod actions.

As for the name-calling, I think it's a little naive to think that helped anything. I guess a few thin-skinned posters may have liked it better (not that I particularly care to share a forum with them anyway, I'd imagine), but it's generally just a mockery where more time gets wasted debating about what is or isn't over some imaginary line of offensiveness. I don't consider it a win (or a loss for that matter) if name-calling is simply forced to appear worded slightly differently. I will agree, though, that there was a fair amount of entertainment value provided by reading the ban lists, if only because they served as a nice mix-tape of amusing forum moments, but I don't imagine that was the ultimate purpose the rules were created to serve....

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I mean, you're free to disagree, but there was a lot of data on traffic at the time, and anecdotally I can tell you lots of people said the changes caused them to start contributing/posting more. Considering that people now ***** about "lol x" thread titles, I think it shows how far we've come in the whole readability regard.
Who are these people? They have been referred to abstractly by multiple mods now, but I'm finding it hard to think of any reasonable candidates. I'll admit, though, that not everyone shares the same opinion about what makes a poster a "contributor".

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False modesty unbecoming of a poster of your quality!

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C'mon now. This is clearly false and only explained due to extreme bias as a result of real life friendship. Assani has clearly contributed stuff, but has frequently also been a mega distraction in a negative way on no shortage of occassions. Especially wrt SE, we're talking about the introducing FBG draft threads to this forum, above average basketball discussion and............what? Biased football analysis and Denver is an elite team takes? Assani adds value for sure, but you're neglecting the negative plays in your calculus.
You've got this completely backwards. I became real-life friends with Assani in the first place 100% because of his posting on here, and the same is true with Bobbo.

Adding the FBG draft template might seem like an obvious negligible contribution now, but nobody else had done it, and I don't see who else would have. The scale of the exercises and the volume and thoroughness of debate they spawned is unrivaled across the entirety of 2+2 afaict, including spreading to multiple other forums, some of which have even banned Assani (or at least had for a time....I don't keep that up-to-date on these things) because they are run by morons.

To sum up his contributions as the FBG draft, biased football analysis (as if any of the rest of the self-aware lot here are above this), and a thread about Denver is silliness, and you're better than that. There is nobody on here, Bobbo excluded, who is willing to explore the depths of an argument anywhere near the level Assani will. That he is sometimes (or often, as happens when you post a lot) wrong is so completely irrelevant that I don't know what else to say. The fact that these aspects are so often seen as a negative on here is simply disappointing. Maybe the forum would be better if instead of worrying about modding meme overuse, our good veteran posters wouldn't stoke the flames with dismissive accusations of "bobbotarding" or "assanitrolling" when these guys go out of their way to post what comprises almost all of what's left of interesting, thought-provoking content in TZ these days.

His artful trolling is just icing.
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:03 PM   #7642
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those are from 4 months ago.
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I don't think Epi was ever on the umad bandwagon but he's done enough show your work and $how your work to more than make up for it
I will admit it is possible I have confused memetarding for genuine ******ation.
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:04 PM   #7644
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Seriously not trying to memetard here.

Nath, how does one get so furious over a public internet message board? I'm genuinely interested.
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:04 PM   #7645
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link 10 posts within a year from today where i memetard pls, i don't think there are moar than like 3 but i wanna be on the safe side
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:05 PM   #7646
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The real villain here is football season for ending. The forum always goes downhill during this period to some degree and there are always "SE sucks" posts/discussions.
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:05 PM   #7647
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Epipen's biggest crimes against the forum are his work in the Brady/Manning thread, anything related to Ke$ha, and generally any time someone replaced an S with a $ in any context other than "Check my $tats"
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:05 PM   #7648
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Victor,
I didn't realize one month in internet time was an era. I am sorry and will retract my criticisms until later tonight, when enough time will have passed that it will not be hypocritical to change my stance.
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Seriously not trying to memetard here.

Nath, how does one get so furious over a public internet message board? I'm genuinely interested.
Man, I just want to read the threads I like and talk about the sports I like without people dropping in and tarding them up on purpose and nothing being done about it. I might come across as the maddest one here, but it's clear I'm far from the only one who feels this way, just the one who uses the most incendiary language.

I don't think I have anything new to say beyond that so I'm gonna go cool off for a bit.
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:06 PM   #7650
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Yeah, anything relating to Ke$ha was a pox on this forum and good taste in general
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