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07-17-2013 , 07:21 AM
Way back in my camera roll, took this to make my buddy jelly a couple months ago (he moved to lolminnesota where they have some comical looking pizza as well):



Not the perfect slice but this is pizza
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07-17-2013 , 07:26 AM
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07-17-2013 , 07:27 AM
nuts hot you never told us where you were moving to
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07-17-2013 , 07:27 AM
That other slice looks like Fear Factor Pizza


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07-17-2013 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
nuts hot you never told us where you were moving to
Somewhere in Bestchester obv
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07-17-2013 , 09:11 AM
lol suburbs
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07-17-2013 , 09:27 AM
Man wins a car on a hole in one.

Fast forward 37 years.

His son wins a car on a hole in one. On the same hole.

http://www.oregonlive.com/golf/index...l#incart_river
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07-17-2013 , 09:43 AM
Just started interview season. I've had two part time jobs at the University of Minnesota (one of them doing research in a personality lab), while working to get my degree, since a little bit after black friday. Got a student employee award for leadership and outstanding service for my work in 2012-2013. Currently doing all the work that goes into getting full time employment at a prestigious company/organization for the first time (God Damn, it really is a lot of work).

Some observations so far: I'm a little uncomfortable bragging about myself and the accomplishments i have had in my life--it seems like its in bad taste and imo, if i were a hiring manager, i wouldn't care much about self perception (and would think someone who is completely full of themselves is a total douche) and id put a lot more weight into what other people's opinions are. Everybody is coached to spew the same BS, so part of me cant fathom what they get out of interviewing people, but conversely, how to standout from these frauds.

To all the SE bosses:

Top five most important interview tips?

Dealbreakers?

What would you tell the 20 something version of you to close the interview and get the job you want?
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07-17-2013 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn
Just started interview season. I've had two part time jobs at the University of Minnesota (one of them doing research in a personality lab), while working to get my degree, since a little bit after black friday. Got a student employee award for leadership and outstanding service for my work in 2012-2013. Currently doing all the work that goes into getting full time employment at a prestigious company/organization for the first time (God Damn, it really is a lot of work).

Some observations so far: I'm a little uncomfortable bragging about myself and the accomplishments i have had in my life--it seems like its in bad taste and imo, if i were a hiring manager, i wouldn't care much about self perception (and would think someone who is completely full of themselves is a total douche) and id put a lot more weight into what other people's opinions are. Everybody is coached to spew the same BS, so part of me cant fathom what they get out of interviewing people, but conversely, how to standout from these frauds.

To all the SE bosses:

Top five most important interview tips?

Dealbreakers?

What would you tell the 20 something version of you to close the interview and get the job you want?
1. Maintain eye contact. It makes you look insincere if you constantly look away.

2. Dress sharply. There is really no excuse not to wear your Sunday best to an interview and you look lazy if you don't.

3. Be honest. Trying to embellish your accomplishments (or make them up entirely) almost never works out well in the end. The truth is the easiest thing to remember.

4. Ask questions. It shows that you are interested in the position and the company and not just seeking a paycheck.

5. Do research on the company before the interview. Your knowledge about the company will almost always impress the interviewer.
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07-17-2013 , 10:01 AM
GOAT liquor

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07-17-2013 , 10:19 AM
AJ: what ashington said was solid. What kind of job are you applying for and in what industry?
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07-17-2013 , 10:41 AM
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Much respect to everyone who met up at SUMMER LEAGUE. Was great meeting you guys, sorry I couldn't stick around longer.



Hoya confirmed cool. Well, he's probably wolfing here, but cool nonetheless.
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07-17-2013 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn
To all the SE bosses:

Top five most important interview tips?

Dealbreakers?

What would you tell the 20 something version of you to close the interview and get the job you want?
- Have questions prepared for when that portion of the interview arises. Have some already prepared and written down. Write down some others as they come to you during the interview. Ask thoughtful and future-related questions. (Where do you guys see this company in 5 years? Where do you see my position developing when I'm exceeding goals and expectations? How will I be able to contribute to the company's growth? How will it be measured?)

- Find whatever it is that makes you stand out and focus on it. Most job candidates have similar resumes and similar answers to all the cliche questions. Focus on a particular skill or quality that's unique and valuable and drive conversation towards that. Poker can be a valuable asset for a lot of industries, detriments in others. I'd probably profile the interviewer and use best judgment before choosing to focus on that though.

You want to flip the interview as best you can. When you leave the room, you should be perceived as having been prepared and qualified, yet not overly so to the point of insincerity.

You DO NOT want to come off as desperate. While you might be an unrestricted free agent, it should be obvious you've met with multiple teams and are taking the decision and your options as serious as the employer is. This will net you the best jobs and the highest salary point for them.

As far as discussing salary and money related issues:

- Don't bring up salary in a first interview unless the interviewer does first. If it comes up, do not discuss your current or most recent salary unless there's no way around it. Say things like "Right now it's most important that I find the right position with the right company" or "I'm still involved in going to first interviews and seeing what the market demands".

- When salary does come up, obviously try not to be the first person to give a #. If they ask what you're looking for, just say "What did you have in mind"? It's much easier to negotiate salary defensively.

- If you do have to give the first #, I'd suggest a figure between 10-20% above your high point in your salary expectation. (10-20% depending on amount/industry) Good HR reps will know this game anyway, but it sets a higher bar when they start chopping away. Once you do negotiate a final # you are comfortable with, say that while it was below your price point for the job, you love the position and the company, and then try to see where you can add in extra benefits to supplement taking a bit lower salary. (Bonuses, stock options, benefits etc) Good companies won't be offended by questions like these as most good candidates ask them
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07-17-2013 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn
Just started interview season. I've had two part time jobs at the University of Minnesota (one of them doing research in a personality lab), while working to get my degree, since a little bit after black friday. Got a student employee award for leadership and outstanding service for my work in 2012-2013. Currently doing all the work that goes into getting full time employment at a prestigious company/organization for the first time (God Damn, it really is a lot of work).

Some observations so far: I'm a little uncomfortable bragging about myself and the accomplishments i have had in my life--it seems like its in bad taste and imo, if i were a hiring manager, i wouldn't care much about self perception (and would think someone who is completely full of themselves is a total douche) and id put a lot more weight into what other people's opinions are. Everybody is coached to spew the same BS, so part of me cant fathom what they get out of interviewing people, but conversely, how to standout from these frauds.

To all the SE bosses:

Top five most important interview tips?

Dealbreakers?

What would you tell the 20 something version of you to close the interview and get the job you want?
bertstare.gif
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07-17-2013 , 10:57 AM
For reference, a friend of mine has done management consulting and recruiting for a while and says that if you understand your market and experience and don't land a job in the top 20% of your salary range, you failed negotiating salary
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07-17-2013 , 10:57 AM
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bertstare.gif
Pretty sure that's incredibly common
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07-17-2013 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by digables
For reference, a friend of mine has done management consulting and recruiting for a while and says that if you understand your market and experience and don't land a job in the top 20% of your salary range, you failed negotiating salary
So many people will do a lot of different things to save money, but won't do simple salary negotiation which is going to make a much larger impact on the bottom line.
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07-17-2013 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn
Just started interview season. I've had two part time jobs at the University of Minnesota (one of them doing research in a personality lab), while working to get my degree, since a little bit after black friday. Got a student employee award for leadership and outstanding service for my work in 2012-2013. Currently doing all the work that goes into getting full time employment at a prestigious company/organization for the first time (God Damn, it really is a lot of work).

Some observations so far: I'm a little uncomfortable bragging about myself and the accomplishments i have had in my life--it seems like its in bad taste and imo, if i were a hiring manager, i wouldn't care much about self perception (and would think someone who is completely full of themselves is a total douche) and id put a lot more weight into what other people's opinions are. Everybody is coached to spew the same BS, so part of me cant fathom what they get out of interviewing people, but conversely, how to standout from these frauds.

To all the SE bosses:

Top five most important interview tips?

Dealbreakers?

What would you tell the 20 something version of you to close the interview and get the job you want?
what ashington and digables said was good, but I would add that you want to find something in common with the interviewer and touch on that as directly as possible. Steer the interview in that direction so it just becomes a conversation and not a Q&A.
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07-17-2013 , 11:29 AM
so how does one do a salary negotiation? what are tips for negotiating that when your boss is trying to get you more money also, but is being turned down by the CEO because "that's too much to pay someone that age?"

Basically the reason I am not being paid more is because of how long I have been here and how young I am for my position and not anything performance related. I mostly like my job, but think I am worth more than I make. I know they want me to stay as long as possible, but I don't know how long to stay when I think I could make 25-30% more elsewhere. I'm not necessarily poorly paid, but I do think there is more money out there for someone with my skillset and ability.
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07-17-2013 , 11:47 AM
When you get turned down by the CEO I don't think you have many more options. You could apply and get an offer from another company and they might match it, but be prepared to leave.
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07-17-2013 , 11:49 AM
stop running werewolf games during work hours imo
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07-17-2013 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
so how does one do a salary negotiation? what are tips for negotiating that when your boss is trying to get you more money also, but is being turned down by the CEO because "that's too much to pay someone that age?"

Basically the reason I am not being paid more is because of how long I have been here and how young I am for my position and not anything performance related. I mostly like my job, but think I am worth more than I make. I know they want me to stay as long as possible, but I don't know how long to stay when I think I could make 25-30% more elsewhere. I'm not necessarily poorly paid, but I do think there is more money out there for someone with my skillset and ability.
You work in finance and have very basic ways to measure yourself. Present your work in terms of ROI and growth over time and compare it to your compensation.
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07-17-2013 , 12:22 PM
this senate hearing on egambling about as laughable as one would expect. not sure why i'm surprised at the stupidity but i am
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07-17-2013 , 12:23 PM
btw, the easiest way to negotiate salary with an existing employer is to start interviewing and get some offers sit down and say you are considering other offers

otherwise he's just gonna see your negotiations bluffs and call you down light
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07-17-2013 , 12:29 PM
Watching the Bernanke testimony in front of Congress.

I love how all of these guys ask 5 minutes of pointless questions, then immediately stand up and exit the room.
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