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03-05-2011 , 11:01 PM

#7501

jtg51

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Originally Posted by Triumph36

hey i added a 'respectively', i thought that was funny

Yeah, that was somewhat better.

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03-05-2011 , 11:04 PM

#7502

BobboFitos

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I don't know, I think I'm pretty much the GOAT, but only about half of you agree. That's OK though.

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03-05-2011 , 11:05 PM

#7503

sethypooh21

Make or Miss League

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 47,037

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Originally Posted by Victor

i think the forum is fine. if yall want better content and discussion then actually attempt to provide it rather than whining.

I think you and I have pretty disparate definitions of "content and discussion".

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03-05-2011 , 11:07 PM

#7504

Phildo

doesn't watch the games

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 22,773

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Originally Posted by Victor

i think the forum is fine.

yeah and hitler thought the holocaust was fine

Last edited by Phildo; 03-05-2011 at 11:09 PM. Reason: hitler prob a slightly unfair comp for vic in this metaphor. himmler maybe?

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03-05-2011 , 11:15 PM

#7505

kbfc

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,225

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Originally Posted by sethypooh21

The users get the forum they deserve?

Basically ya. The users ARE the forum. I agree that from my perspective, the forum has trended down a little bit in the last year or two, but:

a) that says more about how great it was then than how bad it is now,
and
b) that's not something that is going to be fixed by moderation regardless.

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03-05-2011 , 11:15 PM

#7506

tschubauer

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Originally Posted by Phildo

yeah and hitler thought the holocaust was fine

Does Godwin's Law count as a meme?

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03-05-2011 , 11:21 PM

#7507

Phildo

doesn't watch the games

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 22,773

i guess a straight hitler:holocaust::victor:se memetarding analogy may fulfill the letter of godwin's law but not really the spirit imo

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03-05-2011 , 11:29 PM

#7508

MEb

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Originally Posted by kbfc

Its really just two different ways of looking at something. (A) depends on whether you view the previous standard as what the forum should be and what we should strive for or if you think it was at a standard above what could be expected to hold. (B) depends on what you believe the source of the problem is. If you view it as a lot of posters trying to have good discussion and a couple posters purposely dragging down the level of discussion then there is something to be done moderation wise. If you view it as a shift in forum mentality as a whole then there isn't anything to be done.

I defer to Tucker on this one.

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03-05-2011 , 11:47 PM

#7509

72off

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Originally Posted by tuq

I agree, and it's gotten out of hand and what to do has been discussed, but whether it's lack of focus, hoping it will fix itself or just laziness, the memetarding has been allowed to continue basically unchecked.

When objectively good posters start to complain or leave because it's not worth wading through all the garbage to find content, then it's gone too far. Pretty sure this has already happened with a few posters.

Maybe there is the hope that these once decent posters who have become lame parodies of themselves will stop sucking. But I've given up hope and it seems in some cases the forum would certainly be improved in their (forced) absence. So there will be carnage soon.

I'll probably start a thread on this because it's gotten annoying as hell.

ALL HAIL TUQ!!!

TUQ 4 MOD!!! imo

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03-06-2011 , 12:03 AM

#7510

Pudge714

Modding All Day

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 39,104

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Originally Posted by Victor

i think the forum is fine. if yall want better content and discussion then actually attempt to provide it rather than whining.

Do you see why people might find it frusturating to post content if the only feedback they get is others hypothesizing on their own level of madness?

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03-06-2011 , 12:11 AM

#7511

Triumph36

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Originally Posted by kbfc

this is partly true, but it doesn't recognize the role that modding had in shaping the forum of one or two years ago. imo, it's more than you think.

i await victor's forum implosion, i give it an o/u of 6 months

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03-06-2011 , 12:26 AM

#7512

Franchise 60

deliciously angry

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 42,744

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Originally Posted by Triumph36

You mean when Tuq was running the show with the clarknasty bill of rights as the template? Yeah, the forum was ****ing awesome then, and no it won't be that awesome again.

That doesn't mean that wrongs can't be righted and all of that, just that the good ol days are just that, the good ol days.

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03-06-2011 , 12:30 AM

#7513

Victor

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Originally Posted by sethypooh21

I think you and I have pretty disparate definitions of "content and discussion".

true enough i suppose. i like joking around in between challenging outside the box analysis. you like bitching about such things.

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03-06-2011 , 12:30 AM

#7514

kbfc

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,225

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Originally Posted by Pudge714

Do you see why people might find it frusturating to post content if the only feedback they get is others hypothesizing on their own level of madness?

If you post good content, you'll get good feedback. It's not hard to ignore the peanut gallery.

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Originally Posted by Triumph36

this is partly true, but it doesn't recognize the role that modding had in shaping the forum of one or two years ago. imo, it's more than you think.

This is a ClarkMyth. Then, as now, the quality of the forum is like 99.9% driven by the quality of the regular posters.

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03-06-2011 , 12:34 AM

#7515

Triumph36

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Originally Posted by kbfc

This is a ClarkMyth. Then, as now, the quality of the forum is like 99.9% driven by the quality of the regular posters.

could i see the secret stats on this? also, when do you ever venture outside your box? modding removes or prunes unwanted elements that can totally ruin threads/discussion. bad posters can/should be ignored but they are usually not. unmoderated forums generally have a terrible signal: noise ratio unless there is a high barrier to entry.

yes, ultimately the regular posters will determine how good a forum is, i won't dispute that. moderation is a key to making sure that regular posters stay.

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03-06-2011 , 12:35 AM

#7516

Victor

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Originally Posted by kbfc

If you post good content, you'll get good feedback. It's not hard to ignore the peanut gallery.

novel concept. but the wannabe highbrows have shown they prefer to bitch rather than contribute. likely bc they are incapable.

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03-06-2011 , 12:39 AM

#7517

Franchise 60

deliciously angry

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 42,744

kbfc is wrong and the only thread he posts in is great evidence as to why.

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03-06-2011 , 12:40 AM

#7518

sethypooh21

Make or Miss League

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 47,037

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Originally Posted by Victor

novel concept. but the wannabe highbrows have shown they prefer to bitch rather than contribute. likely bc they are incapable.

Contributions!

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03-06-2011 , 12:42 AM

#7519

kbfc

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,225

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Originally Posted by Triumph36

I'm not crying any tears for anyone who left a discussion because it wasn't modded enough.

The mistake Clark/tuq make when they put on the rosy mod-glasses is that they mistake their modding as their value, when in fact they were just really good posters.

All said, Assani by himself has probably contributed more to this forum (and other 2+2 forums) than every non-maintenance modding action combined in the history of the internet.

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03-06-2011 , 12:43 AM

#7520

ThaSaltCracka

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Originally Posted by kbfc

This is a ClarkMyth. Then, as now, the quality of the forum is like 99.9% driven by the quality of the regular posters.

Yes and when the regular posters spew memes the forum quality plummets

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03-06-2011 , 12:45 AM

#7521

kbfc

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Originally Posted by sethypooh21

Contributions!

Just so we're clear, I never said Vic was posting good content...

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03-06-2011 , 12:46 AM

#7522

Franchise 60

deliciously angry

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 42,744

kbfc really has his finger on the pulse of the forum, a modship on the horizon you say?

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03-06-2011 , 12:47 AM

#7523

Booker Woodfox

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,573

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Originally Posted by Victor

novel concept. but the wannabe highbrows have shown they prefer to bitch rather than contribute. likely bc they are incapable.

some day I want to see 60 Minutes do a segment "Inside the Victor organization". There's just no way one human being can toss off so many random thoughts AND get them onto the internet. It just has to be a team operation.

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03-06-2011 , 12:47 AM

#7524

kbfc

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Originally Posted by ThaSaltCracka

Yes and when the regular posters spew memes the forum quality plummets

That's because the "regular posters" group has changed. The regulars who were good back then are still good now. (ok, so Epipen has fallen off a cliff, but he's the exception) They just don't represent as high a % of the content, because, well, life happens, and things change.