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01-15-2011 , 09:32 PM

#6751

STA654

Here's some straight talk

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link/summary?

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01-15-2011 , 09:34 PM

#6752

tuq

TEEJ

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In before mad dash to claim Alan Meltzer avatar.

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01-15-2011 , 09:36 PM

#6753

Dids

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Was randomly posting "**** you" in OOT threads and when that didn't work he dropped an n-bomb image and now he's banned.

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01-15-2011 , 09:40 PM

#6754

Victor

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dids, we are way ahead of ya bra.

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01-15-2011 , 09:43 PM

#6755

JaredL

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Was here IMO

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01-16-2011 , 12:57 AM

#6756

chim17

Snowboarding concerts and punk music

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Pretty sweet breaking news.

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01-16-2011 , 01:59 AM

#6757

Triumph36

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free vicksticator.. well okay he wasn't banned, but free his right to make hilarious OPs

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01-16-2011 , 02:05 AM

#6758

Phildo

doesn't watch the games

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boooo tuq

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01-16-2011 , 03:26 AM

#6759

Geddy Lee

Good Ol' Canadian Boy

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McDonald's is so ****ing good after a horrible Leafs-Flames game

worst hundo I've ever dropped on tickets

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01-17-2011 , 12:27 AM

#6760

SnotBoogy

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View: the NFL MVP and Heisman awards are total BS because its so damn rare that a defensive player gets any love. I'm not gonna start a thread on it but I sure believe it.

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01-17-2011 , 12:32 AM

#6761

STA654

Here's some straight talk

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not really.

importance of offense is equal to importance of defense.

and on offense the importance of QB and to a lesser extent HB are much greater than WRs, TEs, and the O-line.

on defense the importance of the positions are more or less equal (MLB is only marginally more important than FS), so it's hard for non-QB players to compete.

could a defensive player ever have the same impact on his team's defensive ability as, say, Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers can have on their teams offensive ability?

No wai

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01-17-2011 , 12:35 AM

#6762

Phildo

doesn't watch the games

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Originally Posted by STA654

you are incredibly wrong about almost all of this except that qbs > all

lol running backs

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01-17-2011 , 12:35 AM

#6763

SnotBoogy

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ok so then only QBs should ever win the award, right?

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01-17-2011 , 12:38 AM

#6764

STA654

Here's some straight talk

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Originally Posted by Phildo

you are incredibly wrong about almost all of this except that qbs > all

so which is more important, defense or offense?

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01-17-2011 , 12:38 AM

#6765

SnotBoogy

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last 2 non-qbs were Shaun Alexander and LaDainian Tomlinson

what kind of statistics would it take to put a defensive player on that level to surpass the importance of QBs?

15 ints? 20 sacks?

Could a offensive lineman ever feasibly be MVP?

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01-17-2011 , 12:40 AM

#6766

STA654

Here's some straight talk

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I think it would have to be a D-lineman who was simply unstoppable against both the run and pass. So tons of penetration every single play for TFLs and sacks.

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01-17-2011 , 12:41 AM

#6767

SnotBoogy

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Gut feel is that its just incredibly biased if only 2 defensive players have ever won MVP

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01-17-2011 , 12:44 AM

#6768

Phildo

doesn't watch the games

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the actual most valuable player in the league is currently always going to be a qb unless **** changes drastically.

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so which is more important, defense or offense?

well ok i guess you got that part right too.

your positional rankings are lolbad though. rb over wr and especially ol is awful. and no all the defensive positions are not equal.

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01-17-2011 , 12:49 AM

#6769

SnotBoogy

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should hte heisman go QB every year too then?

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01-17-2011 , 01:00 AM

#6770

ikestoys

banned

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Depends on what criteria you are using obviously. I don't think there's a real argument for sticking with a completely value based system.

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01-17-2011 , 01:14 AM

#6771

Omar Comin

fantasy failure

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It's just a lot easier for an offensive player to stand out consistently throughout a season than a defensive player.

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01-17-2011 , 02:32 AM

#6772

dkgojackets

DKGOAT

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if suh didnt even come close then a solely defensive player is not going to win the heisman

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01-17-2011 , 03:20 AM

#6773

Francis_MH

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Could a offensive lineman ever feasibly be MVP?

Orlando Pace was a finalist and finished 4th in the 1996 Heisman voting as an OT. Probably about as much (mainstream) recognition of being valuable as an OL will ever get.

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01-17-2011 , 03:35 AM

#6774

PoseidonCubed

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Didn't Walter Jones win something important one year?

Edit: Nevermind, he was #1 on a Sporting News list of 100 best players in the NFL.

Still, he was really good.