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Old 01-15-2011, 09:32 PM   #6751
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Old 01-15-2011, 09:34 PM   #6752
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Old 01-15-2011, 09:36 PM   #6753
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Was randomly posting "**** you" in OOT threads and when that didn't work he dropped an n-bomb image and now he's banned.
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Old 01-15-2011, 09:40 PM   #6754
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dids, we are way ahead of ya bra.
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Old 01-15-2011, 09:43 PM   #6755
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Old 01-16-2011, 12:57 AM   #6756
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Old 01-16-2011, 01:59 AM   #6757
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free vicksticator.. well okay he wasn't banned, but free his right to make hilarious OPs
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Old 01-16-2011, 02:05 AM   #6758
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Old 01-16-2011, 03:26 AM   #6759
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McDonald's is so ****ing good after a horrible Leafs-Flames game

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Old 01-17-2011, 12:27 AM   #6760
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View: the NFL MVP and Heisman awards are total BS because its so damn rare that a defensive player gets any love. I'm not gonna start a thread on it but I sure believe it.
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:32 AM   #6761
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not really.

importance of offense is equal to importance of defense.

and on offense the importance of QB and to a lesser extent HB are much greater than WRs, TEs, and the O-line.

on defense the importance of the positions are more or less equal (MLB is only marginally more important than FS), so it's hard for non-QB players to compete.

could a defensive player ever have the same impact on his team's defensive ability as, say, Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers can have on their teams offensive ability?

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Old 01-17-2011, 12:35 AM   #6762
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not really.

importance of offense is equal to importance of defense.

and on offense the importance of QB and to a lesser extent HB are much greater than WRs, TEs, and the O-line.

on defense the importance of the positions are more or less equal (MLB is only marginally more important than FS), so it's hard for non-QB players to compete.

could a defensive player ever have the same impact on his team's defensive ability as, say, Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers can have on their teams offensive ability?

No wai
you are incredibly wrong about almost all of this except that qbs > all

lol running backs
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:35 AM   #6763
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ok so then only QBs should ever win the award, right?
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:38 AM   #6764
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you are incredibly wrong about almost all of this except that qbs > all
so which is more important, defense or offense?
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:38 AM   #6765
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last 2 non-qbs were Shaun Alexander and LaDainian Tomlinson

what kind of statistics would it take to put a defensive player on that level to surpass the importance of QBs?

15 ints? 20 sacks?

Could a offensive lineman ever feasibly be MVP?
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:40 AM   #6766
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I think it would have to be a D-lineman who was simply unstoppable against both the run and pass. So tons of penetration every single play for TFLs and sacks.
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:41 AM   #6767
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Gut feel is that its just incredibly biased if only 2 defensive players have ever won MVP
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:44 AM   #6768
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the actual most valuable player in the league is currently always going to be a qb unless **** changes drastically.
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so which is more important, defense or offense?
well ok i guess you got that part right too.

your positional rankings are lolbad though. rb over wr and especially ol is awful. and no all the defensive positions are not equal.
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:49 AM   #6769
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should hte heisman go QB every year too then?
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Old 01-17-2011, 01:00 AM   #6770
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Depends on what criteria you are using obviously. I don't think there's a real argument for sticking with a completely value based system.
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Old 01-17-2011, 01:14 AM   #6771
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It's just a lot easier for an offensive player to stand out consistently throughout a season than a defensive player.
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Old 01-17-2011, 02:32 AM   #6772
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if suh didnt even come close then a solely defensive player is not going to win the heisman
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Old 01-17-2011, 03:20 AM   #6773
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Could a offensive lineman ever feasibly be MVP?
Orlando Pace was a finalist and finished 4th in the 1996 Heisman voting as an OT. Probably about as much (mainstream) recognition of being valuable as an OL will ever get.
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Old 01-17-2011, 03:35 AM   #6774
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Didn't Walter Jones win something important one year?

Edit: Nevermind, he was #1 on a Sporting News list of 100 best players in the NFL.

Still, he was really good.
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Old 01-18-2011, 12:24 AM   #6775
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Classic West Coast Gangsta Ish

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