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Originally Posted by Das Boot
Ultimately, we want these kids to recognize and respect that other humans are complex beings capable, just like us, of experiencing profound pain. But that's a message that also affects our relationship with them. One might argue that their actions mean they don't "deserve" that level of respect and compassion. But the point that I would argue to both "society" and the rapists/apologists is that a baseline level of respect for one's humanity shouldn't be something that depends on qualifications or "deserving", on any level.
Obviously, what the rapists did is a far (, far, far, ..., far) more serious transgression against the humanity of their victims than the "let them rot", "shoot them in the courtroom", etc. type comments. But that attitude is a non-trivial transgression nonetheless.
you say you're not surprised this is my opinion because of my TJ lane post. fair. still, the reality is there comes a point in time where empathy is just a total joke. an extreme position, i admit, but what can i say. there are 4 crimes for which an over-the-top punishment i would advocate for and have absolutely no sympathy for (rape, premeditated murder, domestic abuse, child abuse). i get no satisfaction in "being the better man" and advocating for the human rights of the people who commit these crimes. i think far too many people do that and have, intentionally or not, created a society of apologists. screw that
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anyway, as to the post i linked:
1. arguing that there are worse ways to rape a person therefore these people aren't as bad is ridiculous
2. "there is no such thing as a bad person" is nonsense a person would say because they just took a philosophy 1A class
3. genuinely remorseful my ass. this is a town that willingly covered up a rape that these morons bragged about (while drunk, sure, but still). they're remorseful cuz they got found guilty
Last edited by StoppedRainingMen; 03-20-2013 at 12:12 PM.