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Old 12-14-2012, 09:50 PM   #43451
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:50 PM   #43452
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Alright, need to catch up on The Challenge.

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Old 12-14-2012, 09:51 PM   #43453
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I agree with Tanner on cars though. We should roll out self driving cars and ban the current type. would be less dangerous for everyone and we wouldnt have to deal with road rage or intentional vehicular homicide.
Or, we just accept that the vast majority of people use their cars responsibly and don't try to cater our laws/policies to stop the few times people do stupid ****.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:51 PM   #43454
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I still think better care for the mentally ill is a far more important take away than gun control from these situations. (not that gun control isn't important).

The other thing about gun control is that both sides are so dug in, and the reality is that it's no longer (although maybe that changes) a plank on the Dem platform. You just start fights and don't get anywhere with the argument. There's so little chance for the conversation to be constructive, why not focus where there's a chance we'll actually make some changes?
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:52 PM   #43455
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drums or flats?
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:52 PM   #43456
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No they're not. I have several and their purposes are to either 1) Kill a deer or 2) Never have to be fired
Wait, you bought something for the purpose of not using it? You might want to consider investing in an NHL team.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:53 PM   #43457
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I still think better care for the mentally ill is a far more important take away than gun control from these situations. (not that gun control isn't important).

The other thing about gun control is that both sides are so dug in, and the reality is that it's no longer (although maybe that changes) a plank on the Dem platform. You just start fights and don't get anywhere with the argument. There's so little chance for the conversation to be constructive, why not focus where there's a chance we'll actually make some changes?
republicans should throw this into fiscal cliff talks. we'll ban guns if you cut spending in these areas by this amount might be the unique spin it takes to get something done.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:54 PM   #43458
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Tanner, there's a reason a crime behind the wheel is less. Most fatalities arising from cars are accidents or due to poor driving. Most gun related homicides are not.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:55 PM   #43459
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yea tanner, as a rule of thumb insurance policies are the only thing you should buy with the hopes of not using it.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:56 PM   #43460
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Tanner, there's a reason a crime behind the wheel is less. Most fatalities arising from cars are accidents or due to poor driving. Most gun related homicides are not.
you also have to really know what youre doing to kill 27 people in a car wreck you had on purpose.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:57 PM   #43461
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you also have to really know what youre doing to kill 27 people in a car wreck you had on purpose.
BAN NASCAR!!! imo
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:57 PM   #43462
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I still think better care for the mentally ill is a far more important take away than gun control from these situations. (not that gun control isn't important).

The other thing about gun control is that both sides are so dug in, and the reality is that it's no longer (although maybe that changes) a plank on the Dem platform. You just start fights and don't get anywhere with the argument. There's so little chance for the conversation to be constructive, why not focus where there's a chance we'll actually make some changes?
Has it been confirmed this is a mentally ill situation? I guess that's kind of a dumb question given we'd all say someone who kills 20+ people is 'nuts' of a sort, but doing this requires planning and foresight. If the guy was suffering through some sort of hallucination and wasn't treated I get it, but I don't see how mental care availability can help an organized psychotic.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:57 PM   #43463
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I still think better care for the mentally ill is a far more important take away than gun control from these situations. (not that gun control isn't important).
Improving law enforcement response is helpful too. A lot of places have started placing officers in schools. It costs a little more, but it's obviously safer and doesn't rely on dumb **** like arming teachers/students.

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Tanner, there's a reason a crime behind the wheel is less. Most fatalities arising from cars are accidents or due to poor driving. Most gun related homicides are not.
Are you sure? I'd like to see a source on that stat

Of course guns are used in homicides more often, they're guns. When used incorrectly guns can be realllllllly ****ing dangerous.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:58 PM   #43464
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Pretty sure if we banned alcohol there would be fewer road deaths

But it helps me get laid so **** that
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:58 PM   #43465
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You can kill people with your bare hands. SHOULD WE BAN HANDS TOO?
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:58 PM   #43466
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:59 PM   #43467
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:00 PM   #43468
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:00 PM   #43469
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but thats where we'll find the highest percentage of gun toters
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:01 PM   #43470
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yea tanner, as a rule of thumb insurance policies are the only thing you should buy with the hopes of not using it.
I'm not going to buy a handgun in the hopes someone "tries" me so I can shoot them. I don't live in Florida or Texas.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:01 PM   #43471
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Pretty sure if we banned alcohol there would be fewer road deaths

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Old 12-14-2012, 10:01 PM   #43472
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Pretty sure if we banned alcohol there would be fewer road deaths

But it helps me get laid so **** that
I do partially wonder why we don't have the special breathalyzers that morons on probation for DUI are forced to get in every car. It's surely a cost thing, but I would think MADD would be all over that, even if just for people in the 18-29 range or w/e.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:01 PM   #43473
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Has it been confirmed this is a mentally ill situation? I guess that's kind of a dumb question given we'd all say someone who kills 20+ people is 'nuts' of a sort, but doing this requires planning and foresight. If the guy was suffering through some sort of hallucination and wasn't treated I get it, but I don't see how mental care availability can help an organized psychotic.
none of that has been confirmed. i have even seen reports saying he was autistic. who the **** knows is basically the answer as of now though.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:02 PM   #43474
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I'm not going to buy a handgun in the hopes someone "tries" me so I can shoot them. I don't live in Florida or Texas.
Don't even own a gun.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:02 PM   #43475
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Pretty sure if we banned alcohol there would be fewer road deaths

But it helps me get laid so **** that
Well, the good news is that if we did ban alcohol, no one could get their hands on it if they wanted it.

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