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Old 06-30-2012, 02:33 PM   #29526
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Tesla is definitely not #1, sorry. He's top 5 though for sure.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:33 PM   #29527
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turn on abc, they're about to do a hotwheels double loop...with real cars.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:33 PM   #29528
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Giorgio Tsoukalos is easily top 10 imo
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:36 PM   #29529
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couple of my buddies would have been drinking beer.

last monday it was 95 and humid and a friend and i did 36. went 18 in the morning with my brother, then i went swimming for about 30 minutues, then he and i went another 18 with a different friend.

last couple holes i really couldn't give less of a **** on. my face was just red and hot. #18 on the last course is a 200-yard par 3, and you have to walk a little bit from the cart to the tee box. i absent-mindedly grabbed my driver and didn't notice until i was on the teebox. was so whooped that i just half-swung the driver instead of getting the 4 iron ha.
that sounds about right


only thing that saved us was that each cart had a built in cooler with ice so our drinks stayed cold
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:46 PM   #29530
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I'm not even sure why you're classifying Watson as "biomedical"

Everything he has done has pretty much been general molecular biology. I guess you could maybe classify the Human Genome Project as medical-related. Still, he hasn't done anything of a great enough magnitude that would put him among the greatest biologists. Maybe if he, without a partner, and without using anyone else's work, had discovered the structure of DNA, you might be able to make a case.
lol wat
his work with phage/complementation studies were a huge leap in the understanding of genes
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:58 PM   #29531
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Look, I never said he didn't do groundbreaking things and wasn't a great biologist. I just don't consider him in, say, the top 10-20 of all ****ing time.

The way I understand it, he was only part of a group that did the phage work which then led to his work on nucleic acids anyway.

Plus, he's a racist prick.
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:01 PM   #29532
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I think we all know that Hubert Farnsworth is the clear #1 choice
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:05 PM   #29533
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Tesla must have been an incredible hype man if people think he was a top 5 scientist of all time. I'm sure he was a badass engineer/inventor, but scanning his wiki page I don't see the induction motor and AC power delivery as being top 5 material. (Transistors and integrated circuits are pretty important too, but I don't see people hoisting up John Bardeen and Jack Kirby as top 5 GOAT scientists across all genres.) In terms of basic scientific discoveries, there are several people in E+M alone that would be more influential than Tesla (Maxwell and Faraday are obvious) and across all of physics probably dozens of guys you'd pick ahead of him. Most of them have less name recognition to the general public, obviously.
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:14 PM   #29534
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tho

PRIESTLY
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The monk who messed around with fruit flys and figured out selective breeding

I have einstein > newton because calculus was invented independently elsewhere at roughly the same time, whereas Einstein's discoveries would've likely taken a long time without him.
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:19 PM   #29535
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Tesla basically invented radio and built our entire modern electric power system. His work with electromagnetism was redonkulous

BASaint, the monk is Gregor Mendel (pea plants, not fruit flies) and I've been debating where to put him.
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:24 PM   #29536
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tesla was a crazy person who claimed he invented a bunch of impossible **** near the end of his life which i assume influences the popular perception of him.

he was still awesome though.
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i'll take not being a potato farmer over having super fresh potatoes.
growing potatoes is absurdly easy. it took me maybe an hour to plant a bunch of them and it's ~2 minutes to dig some up. one time i spent 10 or so minutes dumping some sevin on them. that's it.

i'd probably expend about the same amount of energy going to the store to buy them.
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:32 PM   #29537
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Mendel belongs well above Watson and crick wherever you'd take them.

Tesla is Edison but better and less plageristic. He also wasn't a huge douche. He was bat**** though.
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:35 PM   #29538
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I was actually gonna throw some props to Shockley & Crew and Noyce and Kilby.
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:36 PM   #29539
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also lol @ AC power delivery not being ****ing huge.
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:40 PM   #29540
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da vinci not gettin any love?
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:42 PM   #29541
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somehow i didn't peg phildo as a potato farmer
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:46 PM   #29542
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Tim Berners-Lee yo
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:46 PM   #29543
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We just had a gardening discussion like a week ago and now growing potatoes is weird?

They're the easiest thing ever, you can literally chop up a few seed potatoes and just chuck them in the ground. Few months later you dig the plants up. That's it.
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Old 06-30-2012, 04:04 PM   #29544
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da vinci not gettin any love?
Not really that much of a scientist. I mean he obv contributed but a ton of his inventions weren't really functional. Plus, I have a hard time ranking those early guys anyway because with a few exceptions their accomplishments are sort of nebulous.
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Old 06-30-2012, 04:06 PM   #29545
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also lol @ AC power delivery not being ****ing huge.
In terms of ubiquity in modern civilization, sure, it's definitely a very useful technology. But one can say that about a lot of other things too. Frozen food is pretty rad, but I don't think Clarence Birdseye is 1st round material in this draft. I don't think AC power delivery was a particularly profound idea; had Tesla not done work on it, it seems like a near certainty somebody else would have at basically the same time.
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Old 06-30-2012, 04:27 PM   #29546
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Not really that much of a scientist. I mean he obv contributed but a ton of his inventions weren't really functional. Plus, I have a hard time ranking those early guys anyway because with a few exceptions their accomplishments are sort of nebulous.
If by nebulous you mean "enabled everything that followed after", sure.
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Old 06-30-2012, 04:38 PM   #29547
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great. science hipsters.
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Old 06-30-2012, 04:42 PM   #29548
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If by nebulous you mean "enabled everything that followed after", sure.
That's a little simplistic. I mean it's one thing to invent higher level math its another to design a gyro copter that doesn't fly and then claim you influenced Bernoulli.
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Old 06-30-2012, 04:43 PM   #29549
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great. science hipsters.
i was trying to think of some good responses to this, and then it turns out, this is already a thing

http://hipstersci.tumblr.com/
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Old 06-30-2012, 04:44 PM   #29550
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I'm intrigued by this potato talk. Are they really that easy to grow?
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