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Old 06-30-2012, 12:43 PM   #29501
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Are any of those guys on the level of the big 5 schu mentioned though? That was my question.
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:47 PM   #29502
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Seth, ofc u know about University of Minnesota graduate Norman Borlaug. He's probably not on the level of those guys, but people do surmise that he saved hundreds of millions of lives.
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:53 PM   #29503
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I think the ancient guys are the hardest to judge. How on earth do you rank Aristotle, Ptolemy, etc? Even renaissance scientists like Copernicus and Da Vinci have so much overlap with other disciplines that it becomes hard to judge them on the merits of their scientific work alone
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:53 PM   #29504
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Newton was my #1. Einstein #2. Marie Curie #3 because of her double position eligibility. Tesla is 4. Saulk prob top medicine pick for me. Gauss is up there in math as well. Feynman is a big homer pick for me but he's prob top 20 or so anyway.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:03 PM   #29505
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Watson should be considered in the field of biomedical research. Too bad he's a huge tool though
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:04 PM   #29506
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Watson and crick should be DQd bc of Rosalind Franklin.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:06 PM   #29507
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ikes, have you been right about anything, ever?
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:06 PM   #29508
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Watson and crick should be DQd bc of Rosalind Franklin.
Yup.

Watson's only big discovery wasn't even really his work.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:09 PM   #29509
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ikes, have you been right about anything, ever?
Why so butthurt?

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Franklin is best known for her work on the X-ray diffraction images of DNA which led to discovery of DNA double helix. Her data, according to Francis Crick, was "the data we actually used"[3] to formulate Crick and Watson's 1953 hypothesis regarding the structure of DNA.[4] Franklin's X-ray diffraction images confirming the helical structure of DNA were shown to Watson without her approval or knowledge. Though this image and her accurate interpretation of the data provided valuable insight into the DNA structure, Franklin's scientific contributions to the discovery of the double helix are often overlooked. Unpublished drafts of her papers (written just as she was arranging to leave King's College London) show that she had independently determined the overall B-form of the DNA helix and the location of the phosphate groups on the outside of the structure. However, her work was published third, in the series of three DNA Nature articles, led by the paper of Watson and Crick which only hinted at her contribution to their hypothesis.[5]
Watson and Crick got away with this because lol women in the 40s/50s. Crick at least had some dignity.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:11 PM   #29510
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Yes, I know all about that. But even if you take that away, he should still be in contention for the field of biomedical sciences.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:13 PM   #29511
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Yeah, people who committ plagiarism and steal work are revered in academic circles.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:17 PM   #29512
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James Watson isn't revered in academic circles?
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:17 PM   #29513
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Yes, I know all about that. But even if you take that away, he should still be in contention for the field of biomedical sciences.
In terms of the greatest scientists in history? Absolutely not
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:19 PM   #29514
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James Watson isn't revered in academic circles?
Watsons big achievement wasn't his. Without that achievement, he simply doesn't deserve to be in the top tier. This isn't hard.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:21 PM   #29515
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In terms of the greatest scientists in history? Absolutely not
Yes, thus the qualifier "in the field of biomedical sciences"
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Watsons big achievement wasn't his. Without that achievement, he simply doesn't deserve to be in the top tier. This isn't hard.
Looks like we can put that wacky "global warming" rumor to rest thanks to this ice-cold goalpost shift, broseph paterno
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:28 PM   #29516
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I'm not even sure why you're classifying Watson as "biomedical"

Everything he has done has pretty much been general molecular biology. I guess you could maybe classify the Human Genome Project as medical-related. Still, he hasn't done anything of a great enough magnitude that would put him among the greatest biologists. Maybe if he, without a partner, and without using anyone else's work, had discovered the structure of DNA, you might be able to make a case.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:34 PM   #29517
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I think Tesla may be #1 overall. Seriously read up on the **** that guy accomplished.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:37 PM   #29518
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That may be, but IMO anyone but Newton #1 is FPS.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:40 PM   #29519
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1. Newton
2. Einstein
3. Tesla
4. Oppenheimer
5. Borlaug
6. Darwin
7. Bohr
8. Planck
9. Turing
10. Leonardo/Galileo
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:58 PM   #29520
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Played golf in 108 [humid Virginia] heat today, was outside from noon-6.

The 4 of us all were complaining of elevated heartbeat for the last 4 or 5 holes. I drank 12 20oz bottles of water and didn't piss once, haha. **** was ridiculous

Made 2 birdies tho
couple of my buddies would have been drinking beer.

last monday it was 95 and humid and a friend and i did 36. went 18 in the morning with my brother, then i went swimming for about 30 minutues, then he and i went another 18 with a different friend.

last couple holes i really couldn't give less of a **** on. my face was just red and hot. #18 on the last course is a 200-yard par 3, and you have to walk a little bit from the cart to the tee box. i absent-mindedly grabbed my driver and didn't notice until i was on the teebox. was so whooped that i just half-swung the driver instead of getting the 4 iron ha.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:21 PM   #29521
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That may be, but IMO anyone but Newton #1 is FPS.
leibniz yo
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:23 PM   #29522
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Yep

and 99.9% of America has probably never experienced this
i'll take not being a potato farmer over having super fresh potatoes.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:23 PM   #29523
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This one is a top 3 pick in the "Best SE Drafts Draft"
agreed. it was the best one I took part in.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:28 PM   #29524
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I think Tesla may be #1 overall. Seriously read up on the **** that guy accomplished.
as a non-science history dork, I'd agree with this. He'd be my #1. Dude is unreal.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:32 PM   #29525
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I think Tesla may be #1 overall. Seriously read up on the **** that guy accomplished.
Newton invented integral calculus as a 25 year old because current math wasn't advanced enough for his work. He's #1...

Also surprised Curie isn't getting more love. Elite work in 2 major fields. Gives your stream excellent value and flexibility.
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