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06-02-2012 , 03:32 PM
the top 5 for me are really clear cut in no particular order between sopranos, wire, mad men, breaking bad and Deadwood. Not exactly stepping out on a limb there I realize. But i'm not sure what other shows are even close. I don't like BB nearly as much as some people, it's a distant 5 to the other 4 but still way ahead of whatever is number six for me.
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06-02-2012 , 03:34 PM
The Shield?
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06-02-2012 , 03:36 PM
deadwood was off the charts nasty and trippy
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06-02-2012 , 03:36 PM
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Anatta, do you talk irl like you post?
Irl anatta is an upper middle class white guy.
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06-02-2012 , 03:36 PM
Very close for me between Deadwood and Breaking Bad.
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06-02-2012 , 03:38 PM
not the shield but u know what actually started the great tv revolution. nypd blue. it got lame and all but man the first few seasons so sick.

oh and still at it huh lolike what a freak
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06-02-2012 , 03:41 PM
Cool to see M*A*S*H and Barney Miller get some love here. I thought they might be a little old for the demographic.

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1. Buffy the Vampire Slayer
This was, of all people, David Simon's answer to the best drama of the past twenty-five years.
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06-02-2012 , 03:41 PM
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shaft,

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The reason for the budget shortfall is that Carcetti won't take the state money for education. He doesn't do that because he doesn't want to be seen being bailed out by a Republican governor, when he has intentions to run against that very same governor for his office in a couple of years.

It's a move that first and foremost is about his career. It's the same with running for mayor-- he knows he's not ready for the job, but the window of opportunity, with Gray siphoning some of the black vote from Royce, is there now, and won't be in four years.

Carcetti might have first dreamed up the idea to run for mayor because he wanted to make a difference, but even early on we can see him playing politics with Burrell and Valchek to boost his profile, and him ****ing the blonde is a perfect example of the narcissism that leads to this career ambition-- he's watching HIMSELF in the mirror, he's clearly more in love with himself than anything else, and that's why he chooses to run, it's ego gratification.

That's the unfortunate reality of politics-- the people who ascend through the ranks are the ones who play these games, but the only people who play these games are ultimately the ones who care about career advancement more than doing the right thing.
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Not that I disagree with a lot of that, but how do you explain Carcetti pushing away Teresa after their win? It seemed like they were trying to make it seem as if he'd changed for the better. They only showed him with the blonde once and never showed him, or hinted at him, messing around again.

That, plus the fact that he really seemed interested in changing the police departments protocols to actually accomplish something makes me think you're being a little too simplistic here. If all Carcetti wanted was to appear good for the voters, he'd have kept the police SOP the way it was and kept juking the numbers.
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06-02-2012 , 03:45 PM
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The Shield?
never really seen it, watched one ep and iirc i did enjoy it but since its not on netflix and i didn't watch it when it aired i will have to stream it on my comp and right now i have no laptop...but yea i will give it a shot I think it could be something I like. i got like 4 eps into sons of anarchy and it was watchable as well
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06-02-2012 , 03:45 PM
Deadwood blows.

Sopranos/The Wire

Breaking Bad/GOT/Boardwalk Empire

Can't put it in the same category but I probably enjoyed Friday Night Lights as much as the 2nd tier above, too.
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06-02-2012 , 03:46 PM
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the first two seasons of dexter is the best 24 episode streak of television
Probably a little hyperbolic, but it was pretty awesome. You definitely feel like you have to keep watching the next episode. Luckily, I didn't discover the show until it was on DVD. I can't imagine the people who had to wait a week before every episode.
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nah, but the first 2 seasons were pretty good. 3-4 an obv tier below imo (lots of ppl seem blinded by S4 villain's performance, but i don't think the season was all that great overall). everything after that has been just garbage, might be the next show i quit before it ends.
Interesting, I was a huge fan of season 4. I'm not sure if its on par with the first two seasons, but at worst, its close imo. Like you mentioned, I just really liked the performance of the guy who played trinity. The ending was also pretty crazy.
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06-02-2012 , 03:47 PM
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Deadwood blows.
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06-02-2012 , 03:48 PM
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No one in this universe is simply good or simply evil. Carcetti does make some efforts toward doing the right thing-- he turns down Teresa because he doesn't think it's the right thing for him to do as the new mayor, and he starts out wanting to create some real reform in the PD, which is why he fast-tracks Daniels through the organization. But when push comes to shove, he puts his own interests first. He could fix the PD if he takes the state money for the schools, but he doesn't, so he has to spend the PD money on the schools instead. Without spoiling anything, you'll see some of the ramifications of that decision in Season 5, and you'll notice which of his advisors really has his ear, as his decisions become less about doing the right thing and more about political expediency and furthering his career.
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06-02-2012 , 03:48 PM
i like boardwalk empire and GOT as much as the next guy but they aren't on the same level...recency bias imo, boardwalk empire's pace is so plodding compared to the elite shows and GOT is cool and all but hard for me to rank it so high since I read the books and they were so fantastic but i know what is going to happen. Deadwood is number 3 for me and could have easily been tied with wire/sopranos if it got the appropriate amount of seasons imho..Has the best character and the best dialogue..**** love deadwood
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06-02-2012 , 03:49 PM
is there something wrong with me bc i couldn't really get into Deadwood? watched the first 5-6 eps or something bc i heard so many good things (and it was free on demand a while back), just didn't hook me. and i really like most of the other consensus GOAT shows, of the ones i've seen anyway. only seen a bit of The Shield, haven't seen Lost, FNL, Buffy, etc.

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mash was not just a sit com, it made some great points about tragedy of war during the vietnam era. henry blake died, lots of young men died on that show and irl. it was funny but it went well beyond that. it was well done, alan alda as hawkeye...the number one show for many years.
wtf, spoilers yo!?

Richie: have you finished watching S5 of The Wire yet? don't want to say too much in case you haven't...
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06-02-2012 , 03:50 PM
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1. Seinfeld
2. Friends
3. Barney Miller
Curb Your Enthusiasm, though.
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06-02-2012 , 03:50 PM
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Interesting, I was a huge fan of season 4. I'm not sure if its on par with the first two seasons, but at worst, its close imo. Like you mentioned, I just really liked the performance of the guy who played trinity. The ending was also pretty crazy.
i agree. 4 was probably a slight step below 1 and 2 (its not possible to be on the same level without doakes). then theres a pretty good drop to 3, then just an avalanche
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06-02-2012 , 03:51 PM
I like Boardwalk Empire but I definitely think it's the most overrated of the "prestige" dramas. It's not as deep as Mad Men or as thrilling as Breaking Bad, and it's not even close to as strong a character study as either show. The period setting is so exquisitely done and the setting/characters are so innately interesting that it would be hard to make a show about them on that kind of budget that wasn't entertaining.
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06-02-2012 , 03:51 PM
might be some american bias for deadwood since i am kind of a big fan of that era and have been up north and out west alot since i was little and think its a really interesting time period but somewhat unique to America since all the land was unsettled and whatnot..but I just think the dialogue is fantastic

agree with nath on BE, i enjoy it and will watch the whole series but frankly its been disappointing to me compared to my expectations when it was announced

o yea another show i need to start is the West Wing, never seen it


CYE my favorite comedy, love LD so much
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06-02-2012 , 03:54 PM
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i like boardwalk empire and GOT as much as the next guy but they aren't on the same level...recency bias imo, boardwalk empire's pace is so plodding compared to the elite shows and GOT is cool and all but hard for me to rank it so high since I read the books and they were so fantastic but i know what is going to happen. Deadwood is number 3 for me and could have easily been tied with wire/sopranos if it got the appropriate amount of seasons imho..Has the best character and the best dialogue..**** love deadwood
Yeah it's kind of hard to rank shows that aren't yet finished or close to. Pretty confident I will rate GOT on the same level as Breaking Bad when it's all said and done, though.

The only reason I watched Deadwood was because everyone on here kept comparing it to The Wire/Sopranos so I probably just had way too high expectations going in but just didn't really like it.
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06-02-2012 , 03:55 PM
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No one in this universe is simply good or simply evil. Carcetti does make some efforts toward doing the right thing-- he turns down Teresa because he doesn't think it's the right thing for him to do as the new mayor, and he starts out wanting to create some real reform in the PD, which is why he fast-tracks Daniels through the organization. But when push comes to shove, he puts his own interests first. He could fix the PD if he takes the state money for the schools, but he doesn't, so he has to spend the PD money on the schools instead. Without spoiling anything, you'll see some of the ramifications of that decision in Season 5, and you'll notice which of his advisors really has his ear, as his decisions become less about doing the right thing and more about political expediency and furthering his career.
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I mean, it was a pretty clear line in the sand when he refused to take the State money because he didn't want to "grovel" at the press conference and the fact that his new CoS is pushing him to consider his gubernatorial run over anything is pretty damning, but he still seems like he's dragging his feet.

Carcetti seems like he's an example of someone who is adapting (some would say resigning) to his surroundings even though he knows it's wrong. A guy like Gray Davis seems like the kind who enjoys the system and takes advantages of it happily.


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Richie: have you finished watching S5 of The Wire yet? don't want to say too much in case you haven't...
Nope, I'm only at S5E1.
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06-02-2012 , 03:58 PM
lol wat spoilers? only thing i can think of is i said henry blake died...that episode was like in 1976 or w/e...lol. umm dont even know how to do spoiler boxes but worth clickin on naths wire analysis for sure. see anatta gathered all that too (not as precise...well done dude) being a politard among other things

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06-02-2012 , 04:01 PM
yeah cye was great, a little too much at times, but great and really showed the world that seinfeld wasnt jerry's genius as i assumed anyways what do i know its called seinfeld figured it was his baby...but rather ld
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06-02-2012 , 04:09 PM
RT,
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It's certainly valid to think the system just chewed him up, but I'm also inclined to think he was always prepared to sell out his ideals for his career. At the very least, he has to make some decisions about his integrity along the way, and he fails those tests. But I think it's valid to think the system has ruined him; I just have less sympathy for him than people like the corner kids, who really don't have any other options in life.

anatta,

you just click the big SP button in the reply box to put in spoilers.
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06-02-2012 , 04:17 PM
So you think you're gonna cross me
And mess with my ****? Openin' your f*****' trap And flappin' your lip?
Don't **** with me, n**** Cause you're gonna get dropped, I'll snap off your neck With a crackle and pop!

If you say anything You'll beg me to die Cause I'll make you suck my dick Then I'll nut in your eye
I'll stomp on your world As if my name was Godzilla I'm comin' for you, motha-****a, I'm your Krazee-Eyez Killa!
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