oh nice, thats wat i thought it was when i was watching last night. thing is, you cant really know that at first viewing, bc it didnt come out bug's dad was a sandusky until later.

then the other kids were too, but i guess they were just following.

Michael was def molested

Michael was abused by his father, he thought cutty was too friendly so obviously has issues there.

iirc initially you're supposed to think that michael is suspicious of cutty because cutty is nailing the mothers of the kids at the gym. then you find out later (or can infer) that it's because he was molested.

They were pretty unsubtle about how Mike reacted to Cutty touching him and what not. I don't think we were ever "supposed" to think anything else. It's not like Cutty was close to tapping Mike's crackhead mom.

I also don't think we were supposed to think he suspected Cutty of anything, just that he was so sensitive that he didn't want to be around any older guy alone and reacted to innocent stuff like Cutty putting his arm around him while he watched the fight.

Chris's beatdown of Michael's dad is one of the most satisfying yet horrible things on the show.

ok maybe just i though that

ya i remember thinking like phildo initially

sorry man. I lost mine a few months ago. I know how much it sucks

i initially thought michael was just homophobic or something and he thought cutty was hitting up the kids moms as a distraction just to get at the kids. which is a pretty lol theory and the right answer is bug's dad

losing a pet is very hard, especially one that has been around so long. best wishes feel better :-(.

losing a pet is the worst, putting my dog down was one of the saddest things I've been through.

3/18/12: The Great Gottening

like i said this may be the case and would be unsurprising, but it doesn't really matter. he wasn't banned just b/c he might have been some random poster trying to circumvent a ban. if he was in fact doing that it was an odd way to go about it b/c he never posted in the thread before, so entering and stirring up arguments is not a good way to avoid detection.

not going to requote my entire exchange with clark, but he was banned b/c he was believed to be epi. in a vacuum i understand that b/c mods were on watch for epi gimmicks and this guy pops out of nowhere into the nba thread citing some stats that a reg might-- as an aside, real point here should be that this is not the only place where people talk about more advanced ways of analyzing basketball players-- but i was/am basically certain it was not epi or anyone else the mods would have gone out of their way to ban in normal circumstances




i don't recall him posting anything that intimated previous knowledge of nba posters or thread history*.second part is not compelling at all imo, esp given that i know he worked for espn for a spell (not in some major capacity. fantasy sports iirc, but he was likely being exposed to the new wave statistics). anyway, 2p2 is not the only place people discuss these things


* assuming this was the case it doesn't change the fact that he was banned for being epi and was not actually epi

Roman wasn't a gimmick in the sense that it was just an account for a banned poster that happened to take a name from a TV show. He was transparently somebody familiar with 2p2. That was just my impression from his OOTV posting.

yeah i get that angle and i get how the circumstantial evidence piled up at the time. my point is that the conclusion was off as i had info more reliable than an ip check

Sorry about your cat BA. We put my dog down earlier this year (13), and we have 2 cats, one of whom is now deaf and probably on her last legs (19). Somehow she keeps plugging along though. Other cat is 13 but is kind of ******ed so she doesn't seem old yet.

Good luck.

the "previous poster knowledge" was wrt to him calling me a troll in the bill simmons thread even though we had basically no interaction outside of like 1 post exchange in the bb thread (i did troll a good bit in the breaking bad thread. of course i was trolling tut and it was before he stopped posting in the bb thread and before debeers did).

speaking of the bb thread, tut's last two posts in it were 10/09 and 10/13. debeers first post in that thread was 10/11. just another coincidence. he also shared very similar opinions about bb w/ tut.

and of course the use of ldo, and the advanced stat knowledge. all coincidences.

edit: so yeah the mods were probably wrong for banning him for being epi cause he was almost certainly tut.

Now you have solved this what's your next case, Detective Phildo?

These banned users have made it real hard for a message board veteran to stumble over here. But one thing is true, who is stumbling on SE (and OOTV?)? Most users start in poker-related forums and wander into these places and never leave. What new user is immediately clicking on SE, unless someone has told him that here's a good place to discuss sports?

Pecota is an example of this, but, as you state in the end of your post, I told him to come start posting here. He's never played poker in his life I'm pretty sure.

i am obv not going to convince you, or anyone else i guess, but you are wrong all the same

you are being sarcastic, but they are very much coincidences

thanks for the nice messages. pets always bring out the best in people i find

ours was deaf too for a number of years, ur cat can still have a great quality of life in that state as im sure u know

Meh, I was lurking the WPT forum (lololololol @ me) back in 2005 and mentioned that to an irl friend of mine, who mocked me appropriately and pointed me to OOT, which eventually led to me regging and posting way, way too much.

Also, an irl friend of mine regged here after I linked him to a thread and posted in hockey and golf threads for awhile before tapering off.

That plus the Pecota story suggests that "referrals from friends" is some percentage of the user base. Unfortunately that's about all it is these days - the forums' biggest problem is lack of new posters and fresh blood over the past 3-4 years, something I imagine won't improve any time soon as long as the US poker lockdown is in place. So the numbers will dwindle via attrition - people leaving organically or getting banned (although I guess this group rarely leaves, unfortunately).

It is not a good time to be a random!

then the person he knows that you know is tut (and tut prob posted on his account).

you can't expect me to come to any other conclusion without direct evidence to the contrary though. i'd have to be either ******ed or incredibly naive. so i guess this won't go anywhere.

i have talked to him on this forum and on another (which is a very tightly knit community) and know enough personal information about him to know it's impossible for him to be tut or epi

edit: not to mention our common friend is not just an internet acquaintance, but someone i actually know

edit2: who lives in the same state as me, which is on the other side of the continent from tut and epi