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Originally Posted by Phildo
ok, roman
fwiw i never read any of his nba posts in se so his passing knowledge of advanced nba stats didn't have any affect on my opinion. i would still bet large sums of money that he has posted on 2+2 previously under a different account even if he wasn't a well known regular.
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Originally Posted by Phildo
the debeers account was registered in october 2011. here's a debeers post from 10/26/11
"ldo" is a 2+2 specific meme but he was using it correctly within his first month of posting? sure
like i said this may be the case and would be unsurprising, but it doesn't really matter. he wasn't banned just b/c he might have been some random poster trying to circumvent a ban. if he was in fact doing that it was an odd way to go about it b/c he never posted in the thread before, so entering and stirring up arguments is not a good way to avoid detection.
not going to requote my entire exchange with clark, but he was banned b/c he was believed to be epi. in a vacuum i understand that b/c mods were on watch for epi gimmicks and this guy pops out of nowhere into the nba thread citing some stats that a reg might-- as an aside, real point here should be that this is not the only place where people talk about more advanced ways of analyzing basketball players-- but i was/am basically certain it was not epi or anyone else the mods would have gone out of their way to ban in normal circumstances
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
i'm fairly certain roman was not a gimmick
edit: if he was that means someone went through the trouble of trying to level me on two different forums simultaneously. a poster on a videogame forum asked me if i was also tarheeljks on 2p2 around the same time that debeers asked me if i lived in san jose (my location on the other forum is san jose,ca)
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
i mean, you said you think he was epi, so i'm guessing an ip check was not definitive
i saw all of roman debeers' posts, idk anything about the other accounts. frankly i do not think he was sucking, at least not in the nba thread (idk if he posted elsewhere). i just went back and skimmed most of his posts. he quotes a bunch of advanced stats and argues with regs-- where is the sucking occurring exactly?
edit: he called some people ******s as well, i doubt he was banned for this though
i didn't agree w/many of his points, but he attempted to justify his rationale. i think his reaction to being ganged up on was pretty predictable
edit2: legitimate point not wanting to make it easy to evade detection. i'm telling you it's not epi though
idk why i've taken such a vested interest in seeing him unbanned tbh. idk him personally, though i know people who know him. i just know he's been in the other community for years so none of the other stuff adds up
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Originally Posted by Phildo
that combined with his posting style, previous knowledge of posters and oh hey knowledge of advanced nba statistics make it something like 99.99999999% confirmed that debeers was not new to 2+2
i don't recall him posting anything that intimated previous knowledge of nba posters or thread history*.second part is not compelling at all imo, esp given that i know he worked for espn for a spell (not in some major capacity. fantasy sports iirc, but he was likely being exposed to the new wave statistics). anyway, 2p2 is not the only place people discuss these things
* assuming this was the case it doesn't change the fact that he was banned for being epi and was not actually epi
Last edited by tarheeljks; 03-19-2012 at 04:00 PM.